Street Fighting "etiquette"..

I think everyone knows there is no rules in a street fight. But does anyone else (who have actually been in fights) still fight clean? like I dont think ive ever kicked someone in the balls, gouged eyes, punched in the throat, used a weapon.. none of that. I mean.. i know its really effective, but i dont know.. it just never crosses my mind i guess. Does anyone else tend to fight clean in street fights? (assuming its 1 on 1 and they dont have a weapon.. obviously if someone has a knife, Im going to use anything i can.)

I'm dirty as Fuck in a street fight I don't care how long I've trained for what belts I've earned whatever street fight is between you me and somebody's going to the hospital, bricks trash cans booze bottles of all shapes and sizes, kicks to the teeth of downed aggressors, all par for the course. they'd do the same and if not they shouldn't have started the shit. 7HHC CDC 434Heartless

Ive been bouncing in bars for bout twenty+ years, and very recently, at a bar that I had worked at, two guys were arguing and when one turned to walk away, the other suckered him in the back of the head where the boy fell hit his head against a pool table and cracked his skull. He died three days later. On that note, I have always tried to do my job as a bouncer as professionally as possible, but when its a real fight between me and someone else, there's nothing off limits to me. I have done everything in your previous statement. My goal is to devastate my opponent that he doesnt want to try and come back for seconds. And I try to end it as quickly and violently as possible to get that across, but thats just me. I have been shot, stabbed, cut, hit with everything possible and now I figure old testament style, do onto others, especially before they do onto you.

I am the fool you're asking for :)
I have fought too many times to count, and every one of them I fought clean... I hardly ever followed a person to the ground, I let them get up and decide if they still wanted to pursue their endeavor ;) I have done this fighting where I have been jumped, stabbed, and even shot. That's why I say I am a fool. You can't hold yourself to rules that do not apply to your enemy... It is a losing strategy.... I am just the luckiest man on Earth :) Was always fighting for the right reason... I don't know???

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Originally Posted by WilliamGunter

I'm dirty as Fuck in a street fight I don't care how long I've trained for what belts I've earned whatever street fight is between you me and somebody's going to the hospital, bricks trash cans booze bottles of all shapes and sizes, kicks to the teeth of downed aggressors, all par for the course. they'd do the same and if not they shouldn't have started the shit. 7HHC CDC 434Heartless

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thats what I'm talking about. hellyeah

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Originally Posted by Bill Keeling

I am the fool you're asking for :)
I have fought too many times to count, and every one of them I fought clean... I hardly ever followed a person to the ground, I let them get up and decide if they still wanted to pursue their endeavor ;) I have done this fighting where I have been jumped, stabbed, and even shot. That's why I say I am a fool. You can't hold yourself to rules that do not apply to your enemy... It is a losing strategy.... I am just the luckiest man on Earth :) Was always fighting for the right reason... I don't know???

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I never worry about others ideas of what I should be fighting for. If it happened it happened because somebody fucked with me, and I tended to fuck back harder. You had your reasons and that good enough for me. ;)

lol, well at least i know im not alone :P It's like i KNOW fighting dirty increases your odds of winning by a ton, but i dont know.. i just dont have that killer instinct i guess. I would just feel like crap gouging someones eye or stomping on their head or whatever. But then again.. Im not even good at finishing a fight in MMA. If i knock someone down i have a hard time jumping on them and trying to finish the fight with punches. It just feels inhumane to beat someones face in who hasnt done anything to me lol. But dont get me wrong, id love to be able to.. it'll be a HUGE set back if i try to pursue MMA and i cant finish a fight lol.

Nah, I just beat their face in before they hit the ground, that's why I let them decide if they've had enough. I just always felt bad after beating someones ass (even though they asked for it) That is why I fell in love with Jiu Jitsu. I could gently kick someones ass, and not have to feel bad or worry if they're going to wake up. Now, I'm tryin to perfect combining the two (for MMA). So we can control and destroy both standing and on the ground ;)

Street Fighting Tip #352: If you are going to start an argument, start it on grass.

i only got into two street fights, one the guy i was arguing with got sucker punched by my friend then i gave him a couple shots while he was dazed so that wasn't a fair fight. then the next one i slapped the guy in the ear with a cupped hand so that wasn't real fair.

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Originally Posted by frank-theman-james

thats what I'm talking about. hellyeah

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yeah man you know, big dudes don't get fair fights, do we frank? lol lil guys see us and start lookin around for improvised weapons and shit! lol Hope too see ya next sat. dude, you still coming up?

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Originally Posted by WilliamGunter

yeah man you know, big dudes don't get fair fights, do we frank? lol lil guys see us and start lookin around for improvised weapons and shit! lol Hope too see ya next sat. dude, you still coming up?

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yep, and this time, I'm not going to let neale wear me down before I take on his giant. lol

I dont go looking for trouble, I dont go out looking for violence. My policy is, if you come looking for it, Im happy to oblige. Fuck the etiquette, all the posturing and pushing and posing and bullshit. I dont remember agreeing to any rules, or agreeing to this confrontation at all. Im with Frank and William. If somebody messes with you, you ruin them.

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Originally Posted by Tim Elliott

I dont go looking for trouble, I dont go out looking for violence. My policy is, if you come looking for it, Im happy to oblige. Fuck the etiquette, all the posturing and pushing and posing and bullshit. I dont remember agreeing to any rules, or agreeing to this confrontation at all. Im with Frank and William. If somebody messes with you, you ruin them.

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Right on bro! If we agree on anything before a street fight it's his wallets in danger! lol j/k ... not really....:)

It depends on the situation. If I feel like I'm in danger I'll pop his eye out or rupture a testicle to stay safe. If I feel like I'm in control and confident I'm in little danger I'll be less preminately damaging.

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Originally Posted by Tim Elliott

I dont go looking for trouble, I dont go out looking for violence. My policy is, if you come looking for it, Im happy to oblige. Fuck the etiquette, all the posturing and pushing and posing and bullshit. I dont remember agreeing to any rules, or agreeing to this confrontation at all. Im with Frank and William. If somebody messes with you, you ruin them.

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Damn me and the guy from austraila agree on something. ;)

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Originally Posted by frank-theman-james

Damn me and the guy from austraila agree on something. ;)

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Im an Australian tax resident.

the way I look at it is, "If you fight "Clean" is the enemy going to be a gracious towards you?" you may fight clean, but he doesnt know that, just as you dont know if he may fight dirty or not.
I dont like the idea of going dirty right from the start, but I always keep that option in mind.
but if their way bigger than I am, then HELL YES im gonna take every advantage i can get.

general play of big vs small. the big guy is fighting just to beat the other guy up while the small guy is fighting to survive. so who's more dangerous?

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Originally Posted by WilliamGunter

If we agree on anything before a street fight it's his wallets in danger! lol j/k ... not really....:)

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or is it..... lol prize for winning? lol then again, self defence turns into a suspected mugging :P

There are Absolutely No Rules in a street fight. If you are fighting for your life, then by any means necessary stop that fight. But if your just in a brawl/scuffle, then you arent going to stab a man for some shitty agrument. Yea beat his ass, I favore grabbing the wind pipe when choking one handed. Break his arm, lift the head a little so it bounces with every punch. But unless you fear for your life, leave the beer bottle on the table.
And better yet knock out the big fucker he came with first. That will stop any one else fromm jumping in :)

i agree with weebo, if its some crazy night and some psycho looking dude trys it then do whatever you have to to survive, short of killing or paralyzing people, most things should go. if maybe you know the guy or something and he attacks you with just his fists, then i say battle the bastard and show him what your made of. but then again, i dont have a great fight history, 2 fights, and been sucker punched a few times lol. everyone has their own code though, so just keep it moral and stick to it :D

Street fighting is for savages , nuf said.

If a guy says "what the fuck did you say to me", "what the fuck are you looking at", "did you call my girlfriend a ......" etc etc I will say "no mate, sorry, didnt mean to give offence, dont want any trouble etc etc". If hes just a scrapper looking for a fight, he will snarl at you and go look for someone more interesting, hes just a guy who likes to fight and is too dumb to get his arse in a gym. If I want to scrap, I can, anytime, in a controlled environment with class opposition. The guys that keep pushing once you essentially verbally submit, those are bullies. They grow in size and get more aggressive the more scared the person they are intimidating "appears" to be. I hate bullies above all things. Bullies who just look for people weaker than them to prey on make me deeply and irrationally angry. I generally play along, for a while. There is absolutely nothing I find more satisfying than the change in a bullies face from self satisfaction and sadistic pleasure to raw terror. I make no apologies for this. More people should do it.

I have not actively picked a fight since I was 14. That guy was a boxer. He beat the living shit out of me!

Heel hooks are your friend in some street fights...

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Originally Posted by Shannon

or is it..... lol prize for winning? lol then again, self defence turns into a suspected mugging :P

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hey if he wins he can have mine but jokes on him it's empty! lol

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Originally Posted by Shannon

the way I look at it is, "If you fight "Clean" is the enemy going to be a gracious towards you?" you may fight clean, but he doesnt know that, just as you dont know if he may fight dirty or not.
I dont like the idea of going dirty right from the start, but I always keep that option in mind.
but if their way bigger than I am, then HELL YES im gonna take every advantage i can get.

general play of big vs small. the big guy is fighting just to beat the other guy up while the small guy is fighting to survive. so who's more dangerous?

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general play yes but this big dude is big ass stoner teddy bear hippie, I've never been in a fight just to beat some one up, I have been jumped, and god knows I've gotten my ass kicked. lol but in those instances I gain the wisdom that no one cares about the moral implications of an ass whuppin. thats when i stopped. lol just a lil fyi upon reading my previous posts I see how it could seem thuggish :)

If you are getting into street fights, much past the age of 18, you probably really need to evaluate your judgement and decision making ability. Stuff can happen, but fact is, I dont anyone who gets into fights, who isnt looking for them.

I grew up in Brooklyn New York the 90's were crazy there was so many gangs not this blood or crip shit but like the letter gangs acc all city crooks,rns rough neck soldiers,hdd hoodlums doing damage,666,bmwBrooklyns most wanted Ibeen in and seen some crazy rumbles dudes hitting people with qballs in socks machetes knives chains bats. I always fought with my hands to just defend myself I never tried to hurt anyone my whole family were either boxers or martial artist so they always taught me to never be a bully to only fight when you have to. I seen some dudes just be about fucking people up like really enjoying hurting people and all of them got it in return 10 fold in 1 way or another. The neighborhood was divided racially Italians, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Albanians, Greeks, West Indian Blacks, shit even the chinese would get it popping the Flying Dragons were no joke they would be quick to chop a mother fucker up. Dam those were some fun times cant believe its thats back in the day life moves so fast.

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Originally Posted by weebo

There are Absolutely No Rules in a street fight. If you are fighting for your life, then by any means necessary stop that fight. But if your just in a brawl/scuffle, then you arent going to stab a man for some shitty agrument. Yea beat his ass, I favore grabbing the wind pipe when choking one handed. Break his arm, lift the head a little so it bounces with every punch. But unless you fear for your life, leave the beer bottle on the table.
And better yet knock out the big fucker he came with first. That will stop any one else fromm jumping in :)

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Why you gotta pick on the big guy, he didn't do anything

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Originally Posted by Aikijiujitsu

I grew up in Brooklyn New York the 90's were crazy there was so many gangs not this blood or crip shit but like the letter gangs acc all city crooks,rns rough neck soldiers,hdd hoodlums doing damage,666,bmwBrooklyns most wanted Ibeen in and seen some crazy rumbles dudes hitting people with qballs in socks machetes knives chains bats. I always fought with my hands to just defend myself I never tried to hurt anyone my whole family were either boxers or martial artist so they always taught me to never be a bully to only fight when you have to. I seen some dudes just be about fucking people up like really enjoying hurting people and all of them got it in return 10 fold in 1 way or another. The neighborhood was divided racially Italians, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Albanians, Greeks, West Indian Blacks, shit even the chinese would get it popping the Flying Dragons were no joke they would be quick to chop a mother fucker up. Dam those were some fun times cant believe its thats back in the day life moves so fast.

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Yea dude, the times were different back then, kids nowadays dont have any honor. Back then you could say no one jumps in and people respected it. But now you got wanna be tuff guys that will sit back and sucker punch and jump in to keep from taking an ass whipping. Tough talkers, pussywalkers

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Originally Posted by frank-theman-james

Yea dude, the times were different back then, kids nowadays dont have any honor. Back then you could say no one jumps in and people respected it. But now you got wanna be tuff guys that will sit back and sucker punch and jump in to keep from taking an ass whipping. Tough talkers, pussywalkers

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My cousin grew up in East New York Brooklyn there was alot more gun play in his hood I'm from Bensonhurst and Sunset Park most things were handled by shooting the fair one or rumbling most times it was decided if there was gonna be weapons or not for crew fights.

slappin is not only fair its humilating.. i work as a bouncer have done for almost 10 years and nothin brings a loud mouth wanna be done then a good open hander to the cheek.. it causes less dAMAGE