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Cora has a mean meathook if I don't say so myself. But when I saw the Hindu Control, I think it will up her meathook game even more. So my question is, what kind of grip do you use? Any other video out there on this that shows what kind of grip you are using? Is it like the Marcelotine grip? Thank you in advance.
We tried to play around with the hindu control, but for some reason Cora complains of her shoulder, the arm that is holding the leg down. Somehow her just doesnt feel right. Maybe im just too big for her? Anyone with similar issue?
Only 3 people on the planet use Hindu control and I'm not one of them. Ben Eddy, Rob Bradley and Omar Ocasio. Hopefully they'll get on and help you
I have been playing the hindu control a lot....the way i have been setting it up though is not from full guard but from half....ill post a video of a recent match where i hit the hindu control but the guy was a D1 wrestler and i still need some work with it......try and visualize and i will see if i can post a vid of the breakdown i use but any hoot.........mission control with the arm cleared......you hug the knee the same.....while still hugging the knee...i use my other arm to hug the same knee (so your hugging with both arms) and i extend my leg thats in half...like a carni.....this process is to be able to sit up....when you sit up it is way easier to sink in hindu control.....you should be over your foot and chin strapping... you want to be on your side when your here....i know its hard to visualize what I'm explaining.....i don't hit many "marcelatines" from here as that is ben eddys bread and butter....but when your on your side you can see that you can lock in a wrong side triangle which you can switch to a regular triangle.....you also can straight jacket from there.....and hit the carni.....i have been playing with an arm in gully from there but its hard to explain......i will try and see if my wife will let me use her as a grappling dummy and send it to you through text...
That would be awesome bro. Thank you. Just want to see if its will complement her meathook game.
I know Ben Eddy blew out his knee from new Jersey Hindu control when his opponent used a pressure pass...
http://www.10thplanetjj.com/techniqu...hing-warm-ups/
00:00:19 – Ben Eddy demonstrates Gun Show Control to the Rexangle – And Hindu Control to Hindulotine
Perhaps this helps? :)
Pretty sure that was from gun show control from NJQuote:
Originally Posted by Ross Davidson
Here is the match where i hit the control...guy was a D1 wrestler and was really strong and i couldn't get to my side where i can be strong with hindu control but you can see at least how i set it up....i had the chin strap on him but couldn't connect my hands and get over....im still working on it as this is still new but here it is
http://youtu.be/8--3__VWVU0
please
post a video of that on the forum ..I would love to see that as well
It is a great compliment to meathook. I love playing the meathook game, but one weakness it has is guys can control the leg and pass through it. The meathook arm isn't strong enough to keep them from passing there and it's a real battle to get your leg through. The other weakness is when I had it in tight and would move to the triangle guys would turn towards the omo and post on the shoulders to try and jump pass over. The omo is a big battle and I didn't like constantly getting stuck there. So now I play with the gun show and the hindu control because both of these positions locks his head in place and provides enough control to keep the guy from passing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
In the videos I forgot to show how to go into the hindu control straight from a good meathook, but basically if his head is to the right and you are hipped out to the left with a deep meathook in then you can just replace your left hand meathook with your right arm elbow deep.
I used to think S-grip was best, but now that I have played with it more the tightest grip is a reverse gable grip as you'll see on the video. It's much tighter than the S-grip.
Something I didn't focus on in the vid is the more you hip out to the left, the tighter the control and choke will be.
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Originally Posted by Ross Davidson
Yea it was the gun show from new jersey. Hindu is fine in new jersey if you're flexible. I have guys fully pass my guard with it still in and there is no problem. The problem with gun show and new jersey is if he explodes in his passing and twists like a twister side pass, your knee can get left behind sideways and get twisted. It was just a sprain though, my knee is already back to full. So just keep gun show in full guard and you're fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Ah nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omar Ocasio
So here's a couple vids I just took real quick tonight after rolls (this is the Vista gym). I would say one detail I didn't really emphasize or do is to hip out to the left to help get more angle for the hindu control when you are hooking you knee and threading your elbow on top. You also want to put your right foot on his hip and you can push on his hip to help you get the angle. I also forgot to show it from meathook, but basically you can replace your left arm with your right if you are hipped out enough and have a deep meathook. There are also many other things you can play with from hindu control like as you can probably see there is a hundred percent there for the taking, you can even square up and put on crackhead control (with hindu still in) then pump and dead orchard the arm. I also like to go back and forth between gun show and hindu control as they compliment each other well. If his head is far to his right in order to keep you from hugging your knee and putting in the hindu control, then he is leaving the gun show open and vice versa.
Hindu Control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYZNpMsMMGg
And here's a tighter choke you can get if you are really hipped out to the side or your foot is by his arm pit which happens a lot with this move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAHCJ3LVTho
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Amazing! Thanks for the breakdown Ben!
Thank you Ben!
Ah! I see. I thought Hindu was just another name for the gun show.
I'm gonna try this out this weekend!
Also i don't think ben eddie mentioned it in the video but you can also get the straight jacket from hindu control fairly easy by taking the arm thats over the foot and digging it under the opponents arm feeding it over your foot and yada yada yada.....same thing just from hindu control would post a video but.......my dumb self don't know how to make it appear....lol... ill learn that another day
Nice work! Opened my eyes to some new possibilities :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Omar Ocasio
Thanks Ben! Great stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Eddy
that is amazing! :)
That's some wild stuff, dude. I'm intrigued.
Thank you. She has a tournament tomorrow , but there wont be any hindu control as we havent had time to work on it. However, the electric chair is ready to go. She's jumping into the 80 lbs div now and these boys are tough so let see how she handle them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bradley
Damn Ben. Great insight.
great stuff man i love it!
Bump.
Who's using this now?
We'll jump on this once cora has a better grasp of the electric chair 1st. This is going to be her new weapon.
For some reason it works even better on my weak side. Good submission that people don't see coming
I think big cat has better flexibility than I do, time to stretch.
Hit the transition to the triangle a couple times tonight. Granted they were against white belts. Still worked beautifully. Found if I went meat hook, made a little space, then transitioned to Hindu control it was MUCH easier to get into Hindu Control. Still getting the Hindulotine figured out. Missing something to make it really work.
I landed the hindulitine on a white belt for the first time on Thursday! Seems like a great choke, I even went for it in a gi competition today but the gi really made it tough to put a grip together! It's slowly working it's way into my game though! Beautiful position and submission!
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Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Awesome guys. Yea, I often go meathook briefly in order to get the foot in the right place for me to wrap the foot with my right arm. I'm getting another instructional up soon. Should cover the couple spots people keep noting having problems with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
Looking forward to it. You're the manQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben Eddy