I can only think of underneath side-control -triangles,armbars,kimura/keylocks,baseball choke & darce having your back taken -straight armlock,anklelock being mounted- none :( lol does anybody wanna add to the list or maybe show the forum your own?
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I can only think of underneath side-control -triangles,armbars,kimura/keylocks,baseball choke & darce having your back taken -straight armlock,anklelock being mounted- none :( lol does anybody wanna add to the list or maybe show the forum your own?
yes, i have one when someone is side mounting me. stole it from keith owen. i'll post the vid soon.
When I'm turtled and my opponent goes for side back control (with a seatbelt grip, one under the arm, one over the shoulder), I overhook their arm above the elbow that comes under my armpit, grab their same wrist with my other hand and form a kimura grip. Then I drop one shoulder to the ground and attempt to apply the kimura or sweep to side control.
Look up Budo Jake's Rolled up with Nino Schembri. All that bottom side mount stuff is some of my sneaky stuff that I catch every so often. Be mindful not to get your back or arm taken though.
You can get the twister when they have you in a scarf hold (its in the book)
Also reverse triangles are nice from when they have you in SC with an arm in between your legs. :)
Really good video. Thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_TUltBnD8I
This is me vs Brandon from 10p Indy. My match right before this one was against a local pro fighter and we went FOREVER.
Skip to 9:15 to avoid watching me struggle to roll while gassed. I was hoping for a judo twister but when I felt that it wasn't happening I set myself up to land in lockdown with 5-0 control. I go for some variation of this all the time.
I love counters: Von flue, kimura counter to kimura, flipping the truck, etc.
Attack I use from bad positions: judo twister, bicept slicer from bottom of judo side, kimura used to sweep or swivel to the back depending on what they do again from bottom of side. Leg knot entry from bottom of mount. Turkey wrap from being x-guarded. Kneebar off their traditional (incorrect) ankle lock. I got lots more... Jus can't hemember them all.
This is so good, I once got a really good brown belt with it, but now I use it enough for people to predict.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario Lopez Alvarez
This is also my favorite, although I usually finish it with the (near) arm attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wancarlos
D'Arce from being back mounted is also fun, though difficult to pull off.
I love hitting the D'arce from bottom side control, it's definitely one of my go to moves from there. All of my teammates have caught on to so much from there that I have had to figure out some different ways to catch and I have been playing with this way to hit from a weird almost inverted rubber guard position when in side control. I've had a fair degree of success with it in training so far. Once I work the kinks out of it a little more I'll make a video.
My teammate Nick Kroegher has a great move from bottom side he calls the party sub that is like a double key lock. He has been catching it a bunch in the gym and almost caught it in competition the other day. I'm going get a video of it soon! I think Dylan has seen it!
I love the darce from bottom side control too...usually hit it off of a failed ghost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
I've got a really good one. Whenever someone catches me in a submission and it's starting to get close, I'll lightly palm strike them repeatedly. Ends the fight every time.
I've been hitting a darce or jnt from the whip down of late. Initially I'd been playing with it from bottom half,but then I tried the whip and bam!
Kimura to Arm triangle...
Same here! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by VJ Bella
From lockdown top if someone's going for the Apollo you can do what we call the "High Five" and arm triangle them instead.
I'm really hoping this one starts getting hit in comp. It's a pretty simple setup but I'd like to see what kind of holes get poked in it live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
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Originally Posted by Jerry Walker
Me too. Kimura, a la luke rochold on tim boetch (i believe).
I wanna see this one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfhaufEeRSg&feature=youtu.beQuote:
Originally Posted by marc luu
Great Video!!!!!! I'm adding this to my game fosho :) thanks you
There's another one that I stole from Javier Vasquez when being side mounted as well when they have you on scarf hold, it's called the vasque-fix, very smooth move. I'll post that video soon as well.
I absolutely love taking ankles from being arm barred. Once you get your elbow safe, their leg is on the wrong side of your body and you can sit back for a straight ankle or heel hook
Totally forgot about this counter. Do you have any videos that would be good to watch on this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray
I don't have any videos. Its pretty intuitive once you start looking for it. You stack them, get your elbow out, then when you turn the corner to take side control you just catch the ankle. It also works if you are ripping out of an omoplata.
Ginger snap err day! :p I've been purposefully playing bottom side for a few months now just to work on it. Even been pulling the position in tournaments just to hit it. They never see it coming
What's the ginger snap? Never heard of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chronic_jiujitsu
http://youtu.be/Qb_ArTzG_ykQuote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
This was the tournament where I tried to win every match with the ginger snap. Made it to the finals but then had to face a teammate so I couldn't convince him into taking top side lol. The only part missing on this video is when I pull the trapped arm towards myself.. But you get the idea. (Also listen close at 0:23 and you hear a teammate remind me to hit the ginger snap when it looks like I'm going to start playing my rubber guard. Lol)
http://youtu.be/1oab22OF1Mc
This one he straightened his arm to defend so it ended up a ginger snap/arm bar.. But the angles better.. Id rather his arm bend like a kimura and pull it.. But this works too
Very sneaky. I like it a lot.
So your playing a lockdown on the far arm from underneath side c. and then rolling through? ..sorry for the misunderstanding,I'm super baked lol
Dude, that is beautiful. Is there a video that breaks this down? I found a ginger snap video but it looks like a different submission.Quote:
Originally Posted by chronic_jiujitsu
Yeah pretty much. Ideally I'll push them away with the lockdown and use the momentum to sit up and reach behind tier back to grab the arm.. Then pull it towards me. There's a few smaller details but that sums it up..
And there's no videos on it yet (I made it up on accident within the last year so it's still relatively new).. But one of the moon heads has a really good tutorial on a very similar series from bottom side. I'll see if I can find it
I love it! I'm going to work on this for the next month at least. I'm not sure if my stubby little buffalo legs will be able to pull it off, but there's only one way to find out.
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Originally Posted by chronic_jiujitsu
tutorial video on this as soon as you guys find one please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1MTeWDR8J0
Deep half top is kinda a lousy position. Here are some counters from there ;) It also has its own thread now, check it out there and lets keep this vid on this forum only please!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utJkZVSS6BE&feature=youtu.be&noredirect=1Quote:
Originally Posted by ml82
I use that all the time and learned it from Javi a few years ago...I've been calling it the Javi Hook and have played with several variations of that particular move. It's great if you can pull it off! When it fails, it usually causes them to open up quite a bit for the escape. Nice find!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by marc luu
Nice...Brandon has a video for you. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by chronic_jiujitsu