Arm Bar Sweep

So I know it's pretty low percentage, and is a pretty bad set up for mma, but I think it's important to have in your back pocket.

I was also able to pull it off last night, and was pretty proud of myself, and would like to do it more, so I thought I'd share.

Basically: got double wrist control, shifted hips to perpendicular or more, used legs like a lever to sweep. Didn't even need to fully break his posture, just kinda got overwhelmed by the leverage in his armpit from my body hooking leg.

Any other pointers/details to account for?

The toss is your friend! One of my go to moves from guard!

You'll need his posture to do it consistently. We call it a flower sweep. One of my highest percentage attacks from the guard.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

You'll need his posture to do it consistently. We call it a flower sweep. One of my highest percentage attacks from the guard.

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How do you keep his posture but still leave room for hip rotation?

I'll need to add this to my list of things to work on with you when I'm up there :)

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You'll need his posture to do it consistently. We call it a flower sweep. One of my highest percentage attacks from the guard.

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+1

I've been doing the flower sweep right off of pulling guard

Have you started deep hook arm-barring from guard to spiderweb yet? Thats what got me liking flower sweeping more. You can deep hook in mma because if they punch with the free arm, you can block with your free arm, and they are not protecting their other arm from the arm bar. If they grip catch you can sweep to spiderweb

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You'll need his posture to do it consistently. We call it a flower sweep. One of my highest percentage attacks from the guard.

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I've heard called the pendulum sweep as well

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

You'll need his posture to do it consistently. We call it a flower sweep. One of my highest percentage attacks from the guard.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aWk6yftxys

Sorry it's a clip from MMA girls because ewwwwww what do girls know about jiu jitsu, AMIRITE??

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aWk6yftxys

Sorry it's a clip from MMA girls because ewwwwww what do girls know about jiu jitsu, AMIRITE??

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That's a good point, actually, particularly based on that clip. :)

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That's a good point, actually, particularly based on that clip. :)

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Well, I don't know much about Joanne whatsherface, but Hillary Williams generally seems to know her shit. What would you change about her (somewhat watered down) tutorial?

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Originally Posted by Jee Kim

Well, I don't know much about Joanne whatsherface, but Hillary Williams generally seems to know her shit. What would you change about her (somewhat watered down) tutorial?

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I'm just talking trash. Hillary is a fantastic grappler. I don't think her intention in that clip was to teach the flower sweep, so much as it was to show it to an uninitiated audience. Any more detail than that would have been lost on the people that clip was intended for. I'm 100% positive she could break that position down and teach it well.

Hmmmmmm I was actually talking about a straight up armbar+toss, without hooking the leg, which has the option to transition to mount if you can't secure the spiderweb/armbar, from a pretty basic set up. Also, I thought you meant that you had to have the posture fully broken; about halfway broken seems to be fairly doable, at least in my brief bit of experience.

You girls at West La are who inspired me to try to get this into my game, Jee. You all seem to love armbars more than I do, and I really love armbars. Just suck at getting them from guard.

Perfect example of what I mean is at the 1:20 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl52KchiKio

Here's the deal for me. The flower sweep is money. But if you can cut the angle to land it, you could of probably cleared the head and secured a deep hook. From here you can toss o sider web. This is essentially the same principle, but allows you to bypass mount straight to spider web.

If they're falling over without you having their posture or hooking a leg, they need more base.

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Hmmmmmm I was actually talking about a straight up armbar+toss, without hooking the leg, which has the option to transition to mount if you can't secure the spiderweb/armbar, from a pretty basic set up. Also, I thought you meant that you had to have the posture fully broken; about halfway broken seems to be fairly doable, at least in my brief bit of experience.

You girls at West La are who inspired me to try to get this into my game, Jee. You all seem to love armbars more than I do, and I really love armbars. Just suck at getting them from guard.

Perfect example of what I mean is at the 1:20 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl52KchiKio

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Aw, thanks Ross! I'm not much of an armbar girl myself but Kristen (she's the one at 1:20) has that shit down. I think her main thing is making sure that the leg across the face is securely clamped down and that it's the legs and hips doing the majority of the sweeping work. If you do it right, you can slam them right to the ground with dem legs. :)

The techniques on that channel are usually done shity, it's like watching porn stars act..:p

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That's a good point, actually, particularly based on that clip. :)

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There's just something about this avi pic that tilts me so bad.