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EBI Champ Garry Tonon showing his Jersey escape.
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EBI Champ Garry Tonon showing his Jersey escape.
Is it just me, or does rubber guard look really odd in the gi? It's like watching someone in judo shoot a low-level single.
Very interesting. At least it's a fresh idea.
That escape looks legit. With good awareness it seems like you should be able to counter his counter by going to jiu claw if you are ahead of him in the transition. I haven't had a chance to try it out in the gym yet though.
I think Tonon has one of the most interesting games out but he has like no instructionals. I'd love some online videos or dvds from the guy. He's really been killing it the leglock game recently too and he has some wild setups.
I'd also like to see some defense/escape stuff. it seems like he can't be darced or guillotined. On some podcast he said Chris Weidman has darced him like 400 times and that helped his defense. Keenan Cornelius, Bill Cooper, Sean Roberts, Boogeyman Martinez, James Puopolo, even Buchecha have all teried and not been able to darce or guillotine him.
I'd like to see it against a good RG player. I like the idea. Seems risky though. Looks like you could get caught on the bottom or get carni'd
Tonon loves prison guard and the truck and is very aware of the rubber guard. Looks like a legit escape, love that dude :-)
We might. Gary sure as hell wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
You don't think Eddie or Red Destroyer could carni or end up on top? Maybe I'm missing some details. Looks like the key is stuffing that one leg before you roll. Isn't that where you go for the carni? What happens if the guy doesn't leg go of RG a millisecond after you start rolling? What happens if they hold on the entire time?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
You can't Carni from New York, David. Gotta have that head cleared already.
got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
Can the non-NY leg be stuffed that easily? I've never been able to do anything when my arm is locked up in NY like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
I have so many questions!
Depends on the Rubber Guard player, but yeah, against a lot of guys you can just stuff that leg. It doesn't mean you're out, necessarily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wancarlos
Ok cool. Remind me to not be one of those guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
I was boutta go join a Tae Kwon Do school.
wow, that counter kind of fucks with my brain.
makes me want to go back to pressure passing. dayum.
Never leave pressure passing. Ever.
well that was all i did for the first 3 years of training on top.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
once my training partners started countering my passing i took a year to work on more of a floating style of passing. now is as good a time as ever to start combining the two more effectively.
Exactly
Here's a more detailed breakdown of that particular escape (and a variation of it):
http://vimeo.com/99285091
(my apologies if it's already been posted in another thread)
I'm stoked at how many people he's going to get to lower their head to the mat while trying to stuff the leg and pass in new jersey. Polish those hindulotines.
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Originally Posted by Ben Eddy
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Originally Posted by Ben Eddy
I was watching Beent roll last night and I can tell you this escape for sure does not work against Hindu control. Lol
Lol, nope it sure doesn't!!
Haha
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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren