This has quickly become my favorite choke.
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This has quickly become my favorite choke.
Knee kick, or failed back take from turtle. Love em
Capoeira pass
failed can crusher from the top :)
Very interesting..hmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Davis
Sam, just yesterday I was reviewing the options from capoeira that you showed me. Pure gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Davis
Got MG In Action? Saw it on there somewhere. Not pulled it off myself yet, but I've got close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Clark
My favourite is the classic one that is in the warmup: sprawl as opponent shoots.
Another good one is from open guard from half guard: get the neck, kick away the legs and lock it up and the push back into you. Again, think that is on MGiA.
I've never had MGinAction, but I do study Marcelo a lot.
Hey Chad, if you start making the capoeira pass your go to, then respect the berimbolo. Sean taught me that lesson the hard way haha.
Oh yeah? I think I can see how the 'bolo could work from there, but if you have any video links of it being used in action that would be awesome. I could always use some more answers to the capoeira pass.
Also, when it comes to the Marcelotine I don't think about set ups as much as I just snatch it up whenever I can. Most of the time it's when something else is going on. People tend to leave their necks wide open when they are taking you down, sweeping you, passing your guard, or defending a pass. He may have changed his mind since then, but Denny said at the first Midwest training camp that it's impossible to do a shooting takedown without being exposed for a choke for a split second. I feel it's the same for when I'm being swept. I've been wrong before of course :) the nice thing about the marcelotine is even with better grapplers who pass with their sweeps (instead of sweeping, and trying to pass from scratch) you can still choke them because of the high elbow stopping them from pressing in. If I tap guys that are a higher rank than me, most of the time it's with a marcelotine and ending with me in bottom side with the choke still in.
Top side control Marcelotine has been my jammy jam for the past couple of weeks. Finishing it in mount if they go flat or half/kneeshield if they get to knees.
Marcelo has a really good instructional on this set up on mginaction:)
MGinAction is totally worth every penny(assuming you are already paying for MTS)
The finals match in ADCC where Kron snatched up that guillotine after Rickson called the other guy a chicken is a perfect representation of what Denny was talking about.
Sean is your guy. I could show you, of course but why learn it from me when you could learn it from the guy who taught me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Clark
Side control is a nasty one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Ash
Brandon made me drill the ninja choke about 3 weeks ago and I've had success with it for when they defend the marcelotine by shoving their head across to the other side. Anyone else do this?
When I'm passing the 1/2 guard or 1/4 guard. If I can successfully pass, I dive on the Marcelotine and finish from the top if possible. It's so much more nasty from the top I feel.
Great thing about the choke is that it's so powerful that you don't necessarily have to end up in a "submission" position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Davis
This is what I'm doing. I want to hit it from every crazy position now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tori Applegate
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Davis
I agree completely. I grab it whenever I can. I havnt really looked into this properly but Ive noticed myself doing it a few times.When im in guard and i get it then they seem to try and pop their heads out and i go with it and kind of stand up which either gets them to tap or I find a RNC is really easy to get from it and I finish it off with that.
I stumbled across it while rolling with a pretty decent grappler and i thought it was cool so i tried it again 5 minutes later and it worked jsut as well, though Im not really sure how.
does any one else stand with their chokes when they can? I have had some nasty chokes on guys by just standing up with the choke still in on them.
I mostly hit it from a mount or mounted monoplata type of situation where they sit up as I dismount, or reach down to try to hip escape out from mount. That and them turning in and fighting to their knees to escape the north south choke. I mostly try to sweep from the bottom, so I may snap on it from butterfly, but that's pretty much the only submission I attack from the bottom. Sometimes i hit it while I'm getting leg drag passed and hip out and wrap up the head as they're passing like Jeff Glover did to Robson Moura at ADCC '11. I used to hit it from turtle a lot, but I mostly attack seatbelts to the back, and darces/marces from there.
I completely agree. The darce and Marcelotine seem to be the chokes that are the easiest to chase through anywhere. Both can be finished from top half, side control, bottom half, bottom side control, the mount, closed guard, standing, the list goes on. A great drill to do is one that Ryan Hall shows on the arm triangles dvd set. He shows it with the darce, but you can easily do it with the guillotine too. You just loosely hold the choke, close your eyes if you like, and your partner will slowly start going flat back, fighting to their knees, front rolling, sitting out, whatever. Your job is to just follow them around and roll, slide, step over, pull guard, shrimp, whatever it takes to keep the choking position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Thaxton
I am just posting this because I found it today and want ot check it out later.
http://www.howcast.com/videos/514140...MA-Submissions