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After watching the latest MTS I was wondering, would the Isosceles Triangle be legal in IBJJF tournaments?
For me most tournaments here in Germany follow the IBJJF ruleset so neck cranks are banned unfortunately.
It has the *potential* to choke so it should be legal, even if it's mostly a neck crank right?
The triangle itself seems like a great option, since you give less room for escapes, so I'm definitely trying it out.
Hard to say but it looks like a triangle choke attempt so refs may not even realize you're neck cranking them
No ref in his right mind would DQ you for that.
And therein lies the problem...Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
Chances are you wont get DQ'd. Most of the IBJJF refs are blackbelts and have little to no empathy for the system, so they wont even know whats going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Meek
True that...we should get a video compilation of all the submissions where the ref looked bewildered as to why the person tapped. I think I recall one of Ant's where he invisible collared a fool and the ref threw his hands up, like what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
I'm thinking if you shimmy your hips toward the back of their head you would be able to get your calf on the carotid. It also looks like you have a shotgun armbar available. If you're worried about the crank, I think there are a couple options that would pass the IBJJF rules with no question.
The way I do it it's a nasty neck crack but if you are worried just turn it into a triangle :)
Its pretty rare to get DQ'ed for neck cranks
Technically, choke with neck crank is allowed. The rule was developed because a lot of complaints about guillotines turning into cranks. Or RNC's being cranks. They can't through out the tech, so they just allowed it as long as a choke is involved. So since it looks like a triangle, it is a triangle. :) And crank away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray
Am I buggin about the shotgun armbar being there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
It's a nasty neck crank, just depends on how they'd interpret it since you do have an arm in. Usually doesn't get called if it's an arm in but you never know. I had the bright idea to ask Eddie if I could feel how he's doing it cause we weren't getting right at first at the NW Camp, holy shit it felt like my neck detached from my shoulders! haha.
Let me know how this goes as I have an interest in it. My kids coming from a wrestling background enjoy the gator roll, and the gator roll is a second away from being an Anaconda Choke. My kids wanted to learn it but we were unsure if they would be allowed to use it.
Kids, no. They don't even allow kids divisions to pull the head to finish a standard triangle
Figures. I have tried to make heads or tails of kids BJJ rules and it's been really difficult. It would be great if they just listed what submissions are allowed.
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll just pretend I want the triangle while cranking the neck :)