I saw it mentioned on a Ryan Hall instructional, from what I gather it starts when you push your trapped-across-the-body hand further across and put the elbow of that arm on the floor. What can/should you do next though?
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I saw it mentioned on a Ryan Hall instructional, from what I gather it starts when you push your trapped-across-the-body hand further across and put the elbow of that arm on the floor. What can/should you do next though?
Ummmmmmm that seems really dangerous. I'd like to see the technique demonstrated.
If you are the guy caught in the triangle you put both of your elbows on the floor and kind of slide your whole base towards the side your elbows are on, this rotates your opponents hips to the point that they can't finish the triangle. This gives you a chance to regain blood flow, from there I twist back and explode back towards them to break their legs open. whatever you do you have to do it before they take mounted triangle.
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Originally Posted by Eli
Dustin Porier vs Korean Zombie. It works. Took some wicked elbows though.
I use this ONLY if posturing isn't possible. Take the arm that isn't trapped and grab the inside of the femur. Dig past the flesh and grab the bone. Rotate with your shoulder girdle to gain the leverage to pry his tri open.
Are you talking about this escape? This has been my go-to triangle escape since I saw it from Dean. I was never successful at getting my posture back once it was broken in the triangle, but I have a lot of success with this escape.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHlCQKd0Eho
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Originally Posted by Pat Campagnola
^This is whats up. Also, the other escapes Dean shows in that three video series that the above is one of...
Thanks guys. From what you told me here and some subsequent googling, as far as I gather, this is probably Dean's escape but maybe with the elbow on the floor rather than on the opponent's body.
Here's a pic from a sherdog thread of what Ryan was calling the RG escape-
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And here's DP vs Zombie, 19:40:
http://bashtube.ru/video/frame/937f1...4a370a7af.html
He didn't grab behind the thigh though, the free arm was fully occupied :)
I also found what seems to be a gi variation of what we're talking about here -
http://bjjr.ru/techniques/intheguard...e/_default.htm
It works great. You just need giant balls to try it, and even then you gotta be willing to get through the "this crap don't work" phase.
Occasionally some guys have long enough legs to keep the squeeze on, but most can't keep it locked up at the angle. One of the main reasons I like it is because you don't need to worry about fighting to keep your arm on the other side.
check out Bill coopers escapes dvd, he does this then presses forward to open the legs for the escape. The pressure also stops the Hall reverse triangle counter. Super legit
Its a solid escape. Def not fool proof and you WILL get choked trying to learn this but keep trying and youll get very comfortable there
If you can keep your opponent from controlling the trapped arm, and keep his shoulder from getting under his knee, there are a ton of different ways to get out. Just keeping him off his angle and unable to correct it is going to save you from the technical triangle.
Also, in any counter measure vs a triangle (or most chokes for that matter) your main goal should always be extension. Your opponent is going to be trying to compress as much as possible, if you can create extension in your opponents position, the choke is going to be incredibly hard to finish, no matter the length of the opponent.
This is good stuff. I'd like to get good at this escape, since it seems this one might work better on heavier guys. Was already choked out a couple while trying before this thread, but now I actually have some breakdown of how this is supposed to work :)
As Mick mentioned, Bill Cooper shows this escape too, calls it the Tripod.
Can you elaborate on this? Do you mean that once your body weight is on his thigh and his legs are open, it gets less technical and you can just move around and pop out different ways?Quote:
Originally Posted by sean applegate
I use this all the time, I actually combine the two. What's next? patience, patience. I posted one of my comp vids were I spent 3 minutes in a dudes crushing legs. Rarely do I "escape", but opponent gives up or screws up. If your right arm is trapped in the triangle and you get both elbows down you can wait for the openings and either A: swim your left hand into the triangle and get back in his closed guard or B: swim that right arm out of the triangle and double under pass. Sometimes they will force things and you can whip that trapped arm back across their body and do the "hands clasped behind the butt escape/pass"
So many triangle escapes and defenses. That lister one is mad legit
Nah. Its still very technical. by technical, I meant he is going to have to muscle you to get you at that point. If you remain technically sound there, you can escape in several ways. Once you shut down his ability to choke you, its going to be all about navigating his movements until you are out. There is no reason to be stuck after his legs are open either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli