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Chill Dog Choke
I'm not sure if this already exists, but I've been catching a lot of guys with with it the past couple of days. I secure chill dog with my left foot and secure a double bagger with my right foot. My right hand holding my left foot is slightly touching my left ankle. I dig the right forearm into the opponent's neck and push my left foot into the neck to make the forearm dig in deeper. Simultaneously, I bring my right foot, the double bag'in foot, pushing towards the left side of the opponent's body to make both legs pushing feel like a boa constrictor squeeze it would use to kill its prey. This keeps the guy stuck and nowhere to adjust any part of his upperbody. The squeezing pressure, and the forearm digging into the right of side of the opponent's neck causes the tap. (First time I got this was by accident; I was trying to tighten up so invisible collar transition would be a little easier) I call it the Boa Squeeze.
I'd love some input.
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Not sure if I'm picturing this right. So you're pushing your left heel/foot into your right forearm on his neck? Does this actually choke them or is it more of pain submission?
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I'm finding this hard to picture based on your description... Shouldn't you be wrist to ankle? When you say you put your left foot into his neck, do you mean you move it closer to also move the forearm closer? Wouldn't this create space on the other side? Maybe I'm just picturing this wrong...
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The left ankle is right over the opponents neck. My right hand is holding the ankle and the forearm is pressing into the opponent's neck on his right side. The movement of the left foot while I'm holding it with my right hand digs my forearm deeper into his neck. This submission is a choke; I haven't made it a pain submission, but if someone can do it then awesome.
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Video. No teaching just demonstrating.
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I'll see what I can get. Might take some time though. (On vacation for August month and no one to be the dummy)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Brent Smith
Grab a homeless person
I'm with Brent
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Haha, I'll see what I can get.
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Since I won't be getting the video out any time soon, I'll try to make the choke description clearer so the video isn't needed.
(I use the left foot for the chill dog)
The positioning of the choke is the same as the normal chill dog with double bagger except instead of holding the left shin with my right hand, I'm holding the left foot ankle with my right hand. With the right hand I also dig the forearm right into the opponent's throat on the right side of his head. (note: left heel is resting on top of the opponent's neck) With this position secure, I push my left leg into the right direction while digging my right forearm deeper into the opponents's neck and push my right leg (the double bag'in leg) toward the left direction. This motion squeezes the opponent tight making difficult for the person to move. This inability to move makes the forearm in the neck impossible to remove just from head movement. (I am aware that the opponent can use his left hand to push on my right to relieve pressure, but the aspect that makes this choke work so well is that it is surprising and quick. It should be sunk in as quickly as possible so the opponent has no time to react and defend)
I hope this clears everything up on the execution of the choke. ��
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It sounds like your doing a gi choke but your using your leg as the collar instead of the gi if that makes sense. Or abit like the no arm triangle/scissor choke but using your left leg to add more pressure to one side of the choke.
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Kinda is like a gi choke. Only difference is the opponent isn't postured up and I'm using 1 hand instead of the collar.
It isn't invisible collar because the choke is done from chill dog with double bagger. It is also different because of the positioning of the right hand on the left leg.
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You'll need to post a video... to most of us it sounds like you describing invisible collar.
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Sounds to me like he is saying you could start in Invisible Collar, uncross your feet and Double Bag, now move your wrist to ankle grip so that your foot is pressing on the carotid instead of ankle hooked behind the head. Next step would be to pinch knees and squeeze, while holding the double bag.
Just my interpretation :)
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Martin, that is basically it. The only correction I have is I do the choke right when I transition to chill dog before going to invisible collar because the move takes an element of surprise. Other than that, you are spot on.
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So your rubber guard leg is beside their neck instead of behind it?
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Too confusing, why not try some of Ben Eddy's chokes from hindu control. He already has videos of it. Check it out.
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Cora it isn't the point of it being confusing; I just experimented and found some stuff. The move isn't confusing once you picture it.
Dylan, the rubber guard heel is right on the neck with your opposite hand (left leg, right hand/right leg, left hand) holding onto the ankle.
