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Is weaving the legs the wrong way (inside out) frowned upon? I find that sometimes I have had to do this in order to "wait" to weave it the right way (outside in). I can play regular half, I know, until I get the lockdown, but I'm just curious as to what is recommended and what you do, too.
No nothing wrong with it. You just have different attacks
You wouldn't want to get into a habit working it that way inspite of working regular lockdown, so its severely limited in comparison with lockdown- but there is some access to a calf slicer from there and you can regain some control by clinching the leg the way you describe so its certainly isn't something you should never do.
Pretty soon I'm going to be working that position experimentally. I feel like there is potential there.
nothing in they way of the opponent swinging his foot under his butt and hiding it, thus making future lockdown more work.
If I'm having trouble getting the lockdown, I've found that it's easier for me to make a little space and then stomp down with my inside leg so that my outside leg can cross.
But I'm super curious about this wrong-way lockdown, I've found myself asking the same question! I feel like it might be easier to turn onto my side but haven't been able to test it.
This is very true, although 2 things: one, sometimes that hook is strong; and two, the opponent more likely than not "REALIZE" the lockdown is lockdowned the wrong way. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg W
I'm thinking: wrong way lockdown to slow armdrag. So even if they do hide their leg from the lockdown, their back is exposed and I have one hook in. This could lead to back takes, truck entries, and swim moves. I'm going to experiment with it and report back. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg W
Please do, I was curious about the same options!Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
It only works when the guy isn't crushing you down. If you establish a frame and butt scoot hard with the armdrag the sky is the limit. but for the most part if I'm gonna armdrag from half its gonna be ala Johnny Ho from Z guarch(Shield, 93 Guard)Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
I feel you bro. Lockdown has a lot of problems to address too. I really feel like there's something there. I know the path to the slow armdrag is going to be the most difficult. But one thing I can say is that arm dragging has worked wonders for me whether from closed guard, butterfly, or half. I mean, don't expect me to come back tomorrow with the whole thing broken down. But I'm definitely going to make it a pet project because I feel like there's something there.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
For sure, I've been working my armdrags like a mad man as of late, there's tons of power there.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
just a quick question on the wrong way lockdown: I'm more comfortable having the half guard on my opponents right leg with my left over and my right leg under his leg... if in a scramble i get to half guard on his left leg i put in on the same way left: leg over right leg under. It's just a reflex. does anybody else have the same problem? i only noticed when my coach told me to do the lockdown and at first i did'nt even know what i did wrong.
I use what I call a slow arm drag. From the little I know, arm drags are supposed to be explosive and you should end up on the guy's back at the end of it. The way I go about it is a bit slower. Actually, I don't want to derail this thread and I want to get more forum feedback on this. Cuz the key to what I'm envisioning is more about the slow arm drag I use than the reverse LD. But I feel like I might have a good idea for that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
I'm thinking: from traditional half (on your right side) heel drag their leg so that your right butterfly gets under their shin, your left heel is stomping on your other foot. I've played with it before to slow down knee slices. I think there might be a bit more there if I experiment.
Yeah, when I still trained at Empire, we went over weak side lockdown and after 45 minutes of reps, I still found myself going wrong side lockdown and correcting. Still happens to me in live rolls. But I'm a white belt so I think it's somewhat expected to have certain habit that need to be adapted.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaJu Hansen
I like to use it as a calf crank to flatten the stronger guys out and to get them to react by lifting me up . After that when you sit up with your under hook you can get to dogfight check point. smooth sailing from there cause you only have to win the battle of getting him over to his side and roll over your shoulder and your in the truck position.