That was some painful truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FUmBrhz2Q4
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That was some painful truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FUmBrhz2Q4
Just listened to this today at work. Man Joe told him straight up. I dont think Schaub was happy
A little disrespectful for the guy who edited the video with brendons surprised face.
Its nice to see rogan being honest but shit, poor brendan. I dont know if it was necessary to say this on the podcast but come to think about it is better when hes on the podcast than talk about that when hes not on behind his back I guess.
This was pulled from the Fighter and the Kid Podcast. Brendan said he wanted to talk about all this so Joe obliged. The truth hurts sometimes but it comes from a place of love for Joe because that is his friendQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Sarasin
Not disrespectful at all. Pride is a motherfucker. Dancing around it to not be rude is deceptive. Joe was honest. Thats respect.
I think over the next decade or two this traumatic brain injury issue is going to become a huge deal for MMA, boxing/kickboxing, American football, and some other sports.
I would imagine Rogan (being a compassionate guy) has been struggling for a while with ethical concerns over his role in MMA in light of his knowledge of what it will do in the long run to at least some % of the fighters.
He did the right thing by talking about this publicly and in a context that adds a human face to the issue (Schaub).
That was honestly amazing. Tough love.
Whether you think Joe was being a jerk or a good friend, we all need someone like that in our lives to tell us the truth or at least not spare our feelings and give us what in their mind is an honest assessment.
I definitely have to agree with that. Even just as a fan of the sport I struggle with it. I used to get frustrated with friends and family members who wouldn't let their kids play football or hockey because of head injuries, but now with a 4 year old boy, I find myself struggling with the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hanley
I agree. It may have been "too close in time" to the loss (amplifies the humiliation he may feel), but it needed to be said.Quote:
Originally Posted by NotReady
it was tough for me to listen to and I'm a huge Schaub hater. I can only imagine how Brenda felt. But Joe was still right. If he still wants to fight, I think he could be a Bellator champ, just never a ufc champ. Good Lord imagine what Cain or JDS would do to him.
I can't believe Joe said all that brutally honest stuff and didn't even touch on his Metamoris match.
I get the pride and ego involved with being a high level competitor...but for him to think he would give Cain a hard time in a WRESTLING MATCH...wow. That's kind of where Joe lost it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
lol...Was that on purpose?Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
the music was a nice touch. reminds me of the enya eddie+joe vid.
He should go down to 205
I loved this interview and Schaub deserved it in my eyes after his chicken shit stunts at Metamoris.
Schaub's podcast has changed my opinion on the guy completely. I'm still not a huge fan of him in a martial arts sense but as a guy he goes pretty alright.
New Fighter and the Kid podcast out now discussing the conversation with Joe. Get Onnit (yeah I did)
Don't like him as a fighter but he seems alright after hearing him on fight companion and fighter and the kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Bruhn
His intention wasn't to tear Schaub down. It was to open his eyes to what mma is doing to his brain for a low chance of being elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pan
Brendan Schaub responds to Joe Rogan #FighterAndTheKid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af2OARIYc8E
The message he was sending was out of love. Joe isn't trying to tear down or critique anyone for the hell of it, but completely understanding why Schaub is upset, he still has this dream that is alive and well in his mind. He's a warrior, no disrespect to him at all, but I think Joe is right on this one
I know, Bro. Was just joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Sorry hard to tell via text :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pan
As someone who went through a breakup earlier this year, sort of reminds me of the same thing. People telling you all sorts of different things, and it varies from which person says it, what they say, and how you feel at the moment. I'm not a fan of Brendan out my way, but I care about the majority of human beings and do hope things work out.Quote:
I agree. It may have been "too close in time" to the loss (amplifies the humiliation he may feel), but it needed to be said.
Morning Report: Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub reflect on their controversial retirement discussion
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/1...white-mma-news
A few days removed from their emotionally charged conversation, UFC heavyweight Brendan Schaub and commentator Joe Rogan each retreated to their own corners to reflect on the incident.
Recording an episode of Schaub's podcast for FOX Sports earlier this week, Rogan was critical of the former's recent first-round TKO loss to No. 3 heavyweight Travis Browne at UFC 181 on Dec. 6.
Rogan indicated a concern for Schaub's mental health, citing his multiple knockout losses in the UFC career dating back to 2009. Of Schaub's five career defeats, four have come via either KO or TKO. The lone exception being a split decision loss to Andrei Arlovski at UFC 174 in June.
Recalling the conversation on his podcast Wednesday, Schaub sounds as if he was blindsided by Rogan's comments.
"We're sitting down and, I mean, he literally just thrashes me to the fullest extent," Schaub said. "You heard me going 'huh, huh,' because if I would have spoke you would have heard me crying. I was trying not to cry. My phone blew up. I had 40-45 text messages from friends, family. People going, 'Walk out right now. Don't take this right now.
"I don't agree with Rogan. Some of his points I do agree with. There's some stuff when you lay it out and look at numbers I can see why he thinks I should move on [from fighting]. The truth is I make about as much doing this show as I do in the UFC. That's the truth, it's about identical."
Schaub said he understood Rogan's concerns and urges to pursue more creative endeavors rather than continue his fighting career, but that he believes he can still be elite in the UFC's heavyweight division.
"Do I think I can compete at a high level and still kind of do [the podcast]? 100 percent. 100 percent. I disagree with him there. It's a fine line between hanging it up and moving on and continuing to fight. Have I had concussions? 100 percent. It's documented. You've seen me in the UFC. I played football for 20 years. I'd rather live my life for 50 years being a warrior than live to 100 being a freaking gazelle. Being a peasant. 100 years as a peasant? Nah, I'll take the 50 glories."
Schaub said he eventually broke down in tears once he go home, not really knowing who to talk to about the conversation.
On his own podcast, Rogan gave his take on the awkward and emotional situation with Schaub.
"It was intense," said Rogan. "I still feel like s**t. I feel like s**t today. I felt like s**t while we were doing it.
"[Schaub] wanted to talk about it on the air and I asked him if he was sure. He was like, 'Yea absolutely. I want to get it out there. I want to hear exactly what you really think.' I'm sure what he thought I would think and what I did think was different. Then as we were talking I kind of realized, I feel like his perceptions of where he's at and the dangers of what has happened to him and the reality of where he's at and the dangers of what have happened to him were off."
Rogan admitted that the conversation likely should have been held in private, but that hopefully it would serve to help athletes form an educated opinion on chronic brain damage.
"I f***ing love that dude," Rogan said of Schaub. "He's really honest. He's really honest about everything except his fighting ability. I think his fighting ability, or his position, he's got a slightly elevated sense. But that's why he's a bad motherf***er. You have to have this sense that's almost distorted in order to be a fighter in the first place."
Rogan explained that while Schaub is supremely confident in his abilities as a fighter, that same spirit could be holding him back.
"If you lose and you start looking at yourself in a delusional way it can hamper your ability to work on all those areas. Any time you have a delusional perspective, an introspective outlook that's just not accurate, you're not doing yourself a favor. You need someone else to give you advice. You're not seeing things that you can correct. When you're in that state as a martial artist it becomes very dangerous."
Rogan then cited Schaub's 2011 KO victory of Mirko CroCop at UFC 128, saying it should serve as the ultimate example to prove his point.
"If Mirko CroCop and [Schaub] fought back when CroCop won the PRIDE heavyweight grand prix that would have been a completely f***king different fight," said Rogan. "That was a different guy back then ... and everybody knows it."
Whatever way you look at it this was probably the best thing that has ever happened for Fighter and the Kids ratings.
LOL yeah. I feel bad for the guy to get that kind of public humiliation like a day after getting his ass handed to him, but I still don't like him. So i will still not refer to him by his name. It's Brenda, Brendan Slob, BS, Brenda Sob, or a combination of those. LOL. Only way he redeems himself is if he comes back to metamoris and takes his beating like a man or at least puts on great match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge
Or do a wrestling match with Cain. Like Rogan was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
This was an awesome display of honesty and deep insight from a fight expert. I prefer this to anything.
very nice to see a friend take a hard stance on a tricky subject. I might have waited a month or two before bringing it up off air.... but what was said is heart felt and real. Powerful Joe Rogan gave a very honest assessment based on a lot of knowledge.
Yeah, that would definitely prove to him that he's just not cut out for the UFC. He really should start looking into Bellator and getting his sponsors back there. He'd be champ there easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge
Also, no matter what Schaub decides to do... LONG LIVE THE BIG DICK BANDITS
It be pretty hard for him and he'd still never get past top 5 at 205 at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
What does he fight at 235? if cormier could do it i bet shaub could easily. Forrest Griffin walked around at a crazy weight. who knows it might help his chin at the lighter class as long as he avoids RumbleQuote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
He aint no Cormier at any weight. Yeah it might help his chin but hes already slow on his feet, I dont think a big weight cut would help that. He said he has to "plan" to walk around at 250.
He would probably get DQ'd for fleeing the mat and then claim he was just executing his gameplan.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
Cain would eat him alive in a straight up wrestling match
100% agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ericp