was watching the live stream, but apparently they can't stream the finals.
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was watching the live stream, but apparently they can't stream the finals.
yeah, that sucked. was rooting for him. Even Keenan was impressed with the last win (he was commenting on the chat side-bar). Gotta hook 'em up to train together, Eddie.
He go to Brazil!!!#freaksdontsleep
Big time.
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Nice! I just read he won the finals by guillotine
From Eddie's Facebook page:
EBI featherweight/bantamweight champion Geovanny Martinez taps all 4 of his opponent's at the ADCC trials today. RNC, calf crank from the trunk, kimura, darce.
I saw everything but the final. First match was maybe 2o seconds. The kimura was on Mark Ramos who is really good. The lock looked brutal. Geo looked really good and Keenan Cornelius in the chat room was asking questions about Geo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pan
Winners of the ADCC East Coast trials.
Jason Lees (Renzo), Tom Deblass (Ricardo Almeida), Matt Arroyo (Gracie Tampa - Rob Khan), Enrico Cocco (Roberto Cyborg Abreu), and Geo Martinez (10th Planet)
http://i.imgur.com/p80WGBH.jpg
The sky's the limit. So freaky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Yeah man, I mean there's just something about the blend of solid fundamentals with some of his crazy unorthodox stuff. He was maybe the most exciting guy today to watch, and I'm not a 10th Planet student either. Just calling it how it is. Jimmy Frederich from Atos was sick to watch too, but Geo's style was so fun. He won his first match by rnc in 10-20 seconds and I was like yeah he didn't come to play games todayQuote:
Originally Posted by Pan
Not 100% sure what the final sub was for geo. I've heard JNT Darce and guilly now. Phil Schwartz who watched it in person said JNT.
Geo's win in the semifinals over Mark Ramos is at 3hrs 24min (They didn't show others and the finals weren't streamed.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYkmhOxLI8E
No stopping him at adcc!
The finish was JNT ish but had a full D'arce grip I believe.
His first match is on there too. It's so short it's easy to miss. 1 hour 51 minutes in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aiseop
Great job nothing but subs!
So stoked.
Thanks! I knew it was quick but couldn't find it. Awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Official word from Geo, it was a "darceatean."Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
I wanna see what this is. At first I assumed it was just a darce finished from the closed guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Hughes
Finish is at 2:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPb86RfbF8s
I do, too! I look forward to seeing the final match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Wild guess.. Dive for the jnt finish with the darce grip.
It makes it waay tighter.
Pretty sure it was this from the looks of it. Though, he could have been doing something in there I wasn't privy to.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
It really does.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
Maybe I just don't use enough terms, though I dunno because I use darce, marce, farce, slarce, mad darce, and barce---Jeff Glover's terms. But I would consider a darce finished by hooking a leg and falling over the top and onto your side just a darce. Braulio Estima finishes darces like that all the time (http://www.estimainaction.com/VideoD...px?VideoId=362), Bill Cooper finishes them like that a lot too. I think Paulo Thiago may have done it on the UFC, or close to it.
Trapping a leg or stepping over the mount with the darce from the top, and also trapping a leg or two from the marce spinning under them, seems almost required at this point. People are so good at defense these days, if you don't trap a leg it's really hard to keep them from squirming away and taking your angle and leverage away.
Anyways I really wanna see the finish. I said it already but Geo looked awesome at the trials. I think he has a good shot to medal at ADCC. I'd love to see him against Cobrinha or Rafa Mendes. Hopefully the Cobrinha match happens before then at Metamoris 6.
I totally agree.
On top it about using your chest to force their head down. You cant do that without a leg trapped. Unless you outweigh the guy he can usually at least get up to turtle.
The marce is easier to cinch up in general because he cant use the ground for leverage. He can just use his body and mobility, which is why I also prefer to control a leg.
Ive drilled and hit so many jnt's that its instinctual in any similar scenario. Pretty sure they feel the same. If they tap before I get there fine, but im headed that way every time.
i've known ostap for a while now. great dude and bringing it at the comp scene. sucks for me to see him and geo meet in the finals, wish they could have both gone through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Hughes
Can you explain a little more? I think I got you, and I agree that it is very hard to escape once their hips drops to the mat, and once you get past the learning curve of not getting stuck under anyone, I seem to prefer it. It's also harder for me to crank down bigger guys with the vice grip. If I finish from the top I prefer to do the Lovato lift: http://www.scienceofthegame.com/fe/4...e-death-clutch it's awesome because it pulls their head sideways and knocks spine out of alignment so it's really hard for them to turtle up as you punch your choking arm through, and it gives you lots of space to get your forearm in there solid. I don't see too many do this besides Lovato and Bill Cooper but it's money.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
It seems like a lot of top guys go for the top finish and then if they get any push back, they'll go to the marce. I like that too. When you say they can't use the ground for leverage, I guess that's what I'm not sure I follow. Like, how he has no base underneath him to move?
I'll try to head push down detail with the chest. I'm really big on just trying to get my shoulder behind their to drop it into their carotid. it takes very little squeeze or muscle, and can be applied from the darce, marce, closed guard, full mount, anywhere really. The detail is shown all over the place on Ryan Hall's set about arm triangles. I haven't seen it talked about directly anywhere else but it's helped me hold chokes for long periods without my arms gassing. i think with that detail I really have started to care less about pushing the head down more, or specific finishing variations.
As long as their shoulder is dropping into the neck with my shoulder pressed tightly behind it, driving it in, then they can roll around or go anywhere and you can just follow it wherever you need to go. Does that make sense?
Yes. But if you dont fold me up I use Bmc's defense. The only way to compromise my frame is to use a 4 directional attack. Grip, chest, leg hook, plus the floor and no can defend.
I think this is one of those things where we would need to be on the same mat for at least 30 minutes to sort it out. Both might be equally effective. But im confident in the 'grip trap hop' finish.
It's a nasty Angle, I've messed with it, Usually anytime you can lock that D'Arce grip up, whether you come over, under, through, or around, you're gonna take that guys head with you, and where the head goes the body follows.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
The D'Arcepedia will show you most finishes, Sitting Through, Spinning under for a m'arce, stepping to mount, diving over top to force the m'arce, etc.
It's a fucking powerful position, BMAC's defense is on point (He credited Bobby Rivers) when he showed me, and I've been doing tons of R&D to find ways around/through it.
Picture Day defense has nearly rendered the D'arce and its variations useless at our place. It's crazy.
Nathan Orchard, back me up.
BMac showed me a darce defense this summer that pretty much makes you invincible to darces. I have let dudes fully sink a darce in but they always give up on it. And I'm talking top level darce guys. Honestly it kinda made me lose respect for the darce. At least until somebody proves to me otherwise. (:
I'm sure I'm not the only to say that I'd love to see how to do this D'Arce defense. :o
It will defend the darce, but it can be attacked from the vice. Step over peruvian style leverage up with youre radius and pull like a sonbich while pushing him away with your legs. Kinda like the mexican necktie but both legs over. He has to be defending the necktie for his life tho.
There's a whole system for it these days. I gotta show it to you Bobby. You're gonna love it.
I need to make a separate thread about it so we don't hijack Geo's propers.
I'll make a video.
you guys have me so curious about this darce defense now
I'm interested in seeing this defense too. I wonder if it's the Garry Tonon defense. He has the best darce defense that I've seen. He's fought it off from some elite darce chokers. He's defended well against full on chokes from Boogey Martinez, Bill Cooper, Buchecha, and Keenan Cornelius. I'm not quite sure what he's doing, but it works very well. Doesn't seem to matter where the choke is applied from either.
i'll have to see if i can find some of those matches and check it outQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
just sent you a PMQuote:
Originally Posted by Jon Borrows
Looking forward to the video Brandon.