Grappling Websites (premium)

So I'm sure this topic has been done, but I realized that once I cancled cable (aside from netflix) I spend or intended to spend almost all my entertainment dollar on bjj/MMA content.
So I was looking at the following sites that I thought were best, but that I either have or am planing to get...
I would love opinions or other sites that are good.

10P - ok so we are all here so we are all a little bias, but I don't think any objective person could find a better value in cyber space. 5 dollars a month for tons of content and your supporting one of the best community's in the fight game. You really can't beat it.
Grapplers Guide - I really like this site because they have tons of vids and a lot more. Gi and no gi. And best of all they offer a lifetime membership. Sure it's a little expensive for that first go, but if the site is as good as people say you will get your money's worth quick.
Ufc fight pass - I held out on this (and wish o had grabbed the Black Friday deal) but fight pass has FINALLY become worth the investment for me now that they have an Apple TV app so I can watch the best fight library ever created on my tv with ease! Love them or hate them there is nothing close. Cost: 8-10 dollars a month depending on commitment.
Flowrestling: next to 10p if your a wrestling fan this may be the best value going. It's like fight pass, and mginaction, and Netflix rolled into one for the wrestler. 20 a month or 150 a year. Must have

Honorable mention:
Mendes Bros: if I had the money this would be my go to for gi techniques, and I'm sure they have phenomenal no gi as well but the price is high and recurring and I allready pay for two gyms and a lot of other content.
Mginaction: same as above sub no gi for gi.

Opinions from members? Other options you like? Free sites you really enjoy?
I'm up late and I'm up for anything.

I am not saying I've never used a torrent, but for one, of all the things I've listed the only ones I've seen on torrent is Eddies stuff. Obviously I chose to support him with the five dollars a month, but particuarly in a community as small as the MMA/bjj community Id be hesitant to steal intelectual property just because I can. Not a lot Im willing to support with my money, but some things I am.

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Originally Posted by iancattanach

Torrent them all.
You can't hold back the information from the lower class.
Actually you can't hold back information from people who are smart enough not to pay.

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The people running these online sites/databases are not elite 1%ers trying to fuck over the "lower class". They're people just like you and me trying to turn their passion into income for themselves and they're families.

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Originally Posted by iancattanach

Torrent them all.
You can't hold back the information from the lower class.
Actually you can't hold back information from people who are smart enough not to pay.

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Originally Posted by iancattanach

Torrent them all.
You can't hold back the information from the lower class.
Actually you can't hold back information from people who are smart enough not to pay.

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Smart enough? how about asshole enough. Like Ryan said, they aren't trying to fuck anyone over, but clearly that won't stop you from fucking them over.

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Originally Posted by iancattanach

Torrent them all.
You can't hold back the information from the lower class.
Actually you can't hold back information from people who are smart enough not to pay.

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The cost of most of these products is less than what a lot people waste at a night club in one evening.

I have no problem paying for good quality instruction. I live where there is not easy access to quality instruction so I am very grateful for people who have produced these Instructionals. If people don't pay for these products they will disappear.

10th Planet
I don't really go for the 'extra' bits (sorry!), but the actual content and highlights are second to none. I think Eddie is the most charismatic teacher around and if you want to talk value there is no better place to put your money. Also, although it has died down a little in terms of regularity you need to check out 'this week in ROC' which is as good as MTS and fills in the gaps Eddie leaves in earlier episodes of leg locks.
9/10

BJJ University:
All Gi. I liked this, but I feel the site needs to separate the gi and no-gi stuff. They say the majority of gi stuff is applicable to no-gi, but personally I'd like them to refill it and talk me through the differences in escapes when there is so much less friction. The seminars - when they get a yogi guy - are always good, but they feel rushed. As if the instructor has been told 'you have one hour, you need to show 15 techniques' and that's the viewers lot.
6/10

Mendes Bros Online:
My favourite 'top level' competitors site. Although there is not enough NoGi technique on there, Rafa doesn't like relying on grips, so when he teaches you often find it just as applicable to NoGi. Additionally, I've notice Gui has started doing something similar now - saying that 'if you cannot get the grip do this instead' (the guard retention stuff is pure gold). Most importantly of all: the sparring. There tends to be a video of Rafa Sparring once / twice a week in No Gi. Get your notebook at the ready and watch - without this the site would be 7/10, but this sparring makes it essential in my eyes.
10/10

MG IN Action:
Fantastic website that is perfect if used as a database of things you 'need to know' at a specific time. E.g. 'Mount Escape'. My complaint about MG In Action is that the content is often repeated and released in a fairly random manner.
8/10

Lovato JR:
I really like his stuff, but it is so, so gi heavy that I can't rely on it. Get his pressure passing DVDs instead.
4/10

Estima in Action:
The Mendes Brothers stuff is often advanced and VERY in-depth, but Braulio's just went too far for me. Many of the moves I look at and think that although I could probably do them, they are so unorthodox and alien to me that I have no desire to learn them. I like new elements of JiuJitsu, but I don't want to change my game into something I cannot enjoy.
4/10

Project Cauliflower Ear:
Excellent new site that is run by a guy 'just like me' (but much better) who is at the forefront of the JJ revolution. Brent is a brown belt and Brandon is Purple (I believe?), which may make some turn up their noses, but I've found that this makes them able to better communicate certain elements of a technique. Again, 'like me', they are still refining their style which means lots of discussion and excitement about new techniques. By far this has had the most impact on my game.
9/10

Cobrinha BJJ
I really like Cobrinha's site, but I struggle a bit to enjoy and make use of his techniques. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but a lot of what he shows me doesn't seem to work too well - I think he struggles a bit to put across certain points of the move he is showing (pressure exactly). Rather than concentrate on what I should be doing he shows what I do when opponent does this, this or this in a way that makes failure seem inevitable. Hope that makes sense - I know what I mean O:)
7/10

Caio Terra's is one I haven't tried: but I LOVE the fact they have lesson plans.... I feel so many sites could be so much better if they posted up lessons in a structured way or provided documents to support the online student's development.

Anyone tried it?

I do Keenan's $10/month site (Kanjabi) and it's worth the price. He's got a new $25/month site with better organization, but I find what I get from the $10 good enough. However, whoever asks me, I always tell them to do this site. The MTS, for the price, is insane. Plus, I really enjoy the fact that I get to see Eddie teach, instruct as he does, and not just "talk to a camera." It's a class experience and not a bland technique step-by-step site.

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10th Planet
I don't really go for the 'extra' bits (sorry!), but the actual content and highlights are second to none. I think Eddie is the most charismatic teacher around and if you want to talk value there is no better place to put your money. Also, although it has died down a little in terms of regularity you need to check out 'this week in ROC' which is as good as MTS and fills in the gaps Eddie leaves in earlier episodes of leg locks.
9/10

BJJ University:
All Gi. I liked this, but I feel the site needs to separate the gi and no-gi stuff. They say the majority of gi stuff is applicable to no-gi, but personally I'd like them to refill it and talk me through the differences in escapes when there is so much less friction. The seminars - when they get a yogi guy - are always good, but they feel rushed. As if the instructor has been told 'you have one hour, you need to show 15 techniques' and that's the viewers lot.
6/10

Mendes Bros Online:
My favourite 'top level' competitors site. Although there is not enough NoGi technique on there, Rafa doesn't like relying on grips, so when he teaches you often find it just as applicable to NoGi. Additionally, I've notice Gui has started doing something similar now - saying that 'if you cannot get the grip do this instead' (the guard retention stuff is pure gold). Most importantly of all: the sparring. There tends to be a video of Rafa Sparring once / twice a week in No Gi. Get your notebook at the ready and watch - without this the site would be 7/10, but this sparring makes it essential in my eyes.
10/10

MG IN Action:
Fantastic website that is perfect if used as a database of things you 'need to know' at a specific time. E.g. 'Mount Escape'. My complaint about MG In Action is that the content is often repeated and released in a fairly random manner.
8/10

Lovato JR:
I really like his stuff, but it is so, so gi heavy that I can't rely on it. Get his pressure passing DVDs instead.
4/10

Estima in Action:
The Mendes Brothers stuff is often advanced and VERY in-depth, but Braulio's just went too far for me. Many of the moves I look at and think that although I could probably do them, they are so unorthodox and alien to me that I have no desire to learn them. I like new elements of JiuJitsu, but I don't want to change my game into something I cannot enjoy.
4/10

Project Cauliflower Ear:
Excellent new site that is run by a guy 'just like me' (but much better) who is at the forefront of the JJ revolution. Brent is a brown belt and Brandon is Purple (I believe?), which may make some turn up their noses, but I've found that this makes them able to better communicate certain elements of a technique. Again, 'like me', they are still refining their style which means lots of discussion and excitement about new techniques. By far this has had the most impact on my game.
9/10

Cobrinha BJJ
I really like Cobrinha's site, but I struggle a bit to enjoy and make use of his techniques. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but a lot of what he shows me doesn't seem to work too well - I think he struggles a bit to put across certain points of the move he is showing (pressure exactly). Rather than concentrate on what I should be doing he shows what I do when opponent does this, this or this in a way that makes failure seem inevitable. Hope that makes sense - I know what I mean O:)
7/10

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Solid reviews. 10/10 would read again.

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Originally Posted by Apperz

10th Planet
I don't really go for the 'extra' bits (sorry!), but the actual content and highlights are second to none. I think Eddie is the most charismatic teacher around and if you want to talk value there is no better place to put your money. Also, although it has died down a little in terms of regularity you need to check out 'this week in ROC' which is as good as MTS and fills in the gaps Eddie leaves in earlier episodes of leg locks.
9/10

BJJ University:
All Gi. I liked this, but I feel the site needs to separate the gi and no-gi stuff. They say the majority of gi stuff is applicable to no-gi, but personally I'd like them to refill it and talk me through the differences in escapes when there is so much less friction. The seminars - when they get a yogi guy - are always good, but they feel rushed. As if the instructor has been told 'you have one hour, you need to show 15 techniques' and that's the viewers lot.
6/10

Mendes Bros Online:
My favourite 'top level' competitors site. Although there is not enough NoGi technique on there, Rafa doesn't like relying on grips, so when he teaches you often find it just as applicable to NoGi. Additionally, I've notice Gui has started doing something similar now - saying that 'if you cannot get the grip do this instead' (the guard retention stuff is pure gold). Most importantly of all: the sparring. There tends to be a video of Rafa Sparring once / twice a week in No Gi. Get your notebook at the ready and watch - without this the site would be 7/10, but this sparring makes it essential in my eyes.
10/10

MG IN Action:
Fantastic website that is perfect if used as a database of things you 'need to know' at a specific time. E.g. 'Mount Escape'. My complaint about MG In Action is that the content is often repeated and released in a fairly random manner.
8/10

Lovato JR:
I really like his stuff, but it is so, so gi heavy that I can't rely on it. Get his pressure passing DVDs instead.
4/10

Estima in Action:
The Mendes Brothers stuff is often advanced and VERY in-depth, but Braulio's just went too far for me. Many of the moves I look at and think that although I could probably do them, they are so unorthodox and alien to me that I have no desire to learn them. I like new elements of JiuJitsu, but I don't want to change my game into something I cannot enjoy.
4/10

Project Cauliflower Ear:
Excellent new site that is run by a guy 'just like me' (but much better) who is at the forefront of the JJ revolution. Brent is a brown belt and Brandon is Purple (I believe?), which may make some turn up their noses, but I've found that this makes them able to better communicate certain elements of a technique. Again, 'like me', they are still refining their style which means lots of discussion and excitement about new techniques. By far this has had the most impact on my game.
9/10

Cobrinha BJJ
I really like Cobrinha's site, but I struggle a bit to enjoy and make use of his techniques. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but a lot of what he shows me doesn't seem to work too well - I think he struggles a bit to put across certain points of the move he is showing (pressure exactly). Rather than concentrate on what I should be doing he shows what I do when opponent does this, this or this in a way that makes failure seem inevitable. Hope that makes sense - I know what I mean O:)
7/10

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Thanks brotha I'm glad you dig "TWIR". More "The Week in Roc" coming soon (which btw is only Free source of material mentioned here). I try keeping to the average of 1/month. Some months I'll put 2 or 3, if I happen to skip a month. If I do skip a month its usually because its I'm likely teaching material that month that I've all ready covered in previous videos or its straight 10p material that's covered in MTS.

If you have a droid you want to follow "The Week in Roc" via the free "Zogipedia" app through the google play store. The link is in my signature below.

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Originally Posted by Apperz

10th Planet
I don't really go for the 'extra' bits (sorry!), but the actual content and highlights are second to none. I think Eddie is the most charismatic teacher around and if you want to talk value there is no better place to put your money. Also, although it has died down a little in terms of regularity you need to check out 'this week in ROC' which is as good as MTS and fills in the gaps Eddie leaves in earlier episodes of leg locks.
9/10

BJJ University:
All Gi. I liked this, but I feel the site needs to separate the gi and no-gi stuff. They say the majority of gi stuff is applicable to no-gi, but personally I'd like them to refill it and talk me through the differences in escapes when there is so much less friction. The seminars - when they get a yogi guy - are always good, but they feel rushed. As if the instructor has been told 'you have one hour, you need to show 15 techniques' and that's the viewers lot.
6/10

Mendes Bros Online:
My favourite 'top level' competitors site. Although there is not enough NoGi technique on there, Rafa doesn't like relying on grips, so when he teaches you often find it just as applicable to NoGi. Additionally, I've notice Gui has started doing something similar now - saying that 'if you cannot get the grip do this instead' (the guard retention stuff is pure gold). Most importantly of all: the sparring. There tends to be a video of Rafa Sparring once / twice a week in No Gi. Get your notebook at the ready and watch - without this the site would be 7/10, but this sparring makes it essential in my eyes.
10/10

MG IN Action:
Fantastic website that is perfect if used as a database of things you 'need to know' at a specific time. E.g. 'Mount Escape'. My complaint about MG In Action is that the content is often repeated and released in a fairly random manner.
8/10

Lovato JR:
I really like his stuff, but it is so, so gi heavy that I can't rely on it. Get his pressure passing DVDs instead.
4/10

Estima in Action:
The Mendes Brothers stuff is often advanced and VERY in-depth, but Braulio's just went too far for me. Many of the moves I look at and think that although I could probably do them, they are so unorthodox and alien to me that I have no desire to learn them. I like new elements of JiuJitsu, but I don't want to change my game into something I cannot enjoy.
4/10

Project Cauliflower Ear:
Excellent new site that is run by a guy 'just like me' (but much better) who is at the forefront of the JJ revolution. Brent is a brown belt and Brandon is Purple (I believe?), which may make some turn up their noses, but I've found that this makes them able to better communicate certain elements of a technique. Again, 'like me', they are still refining their style which means lots of discussion and excitement about new techniques. By far this has had the most impact on my game.
9/10

Cobrinha BJJ
I really like Cobrinha's site, but I struggle a bit to enjoy and make use of his techniques. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but a lot of what he shows me doesn't seem to work too well - I think he struggles a bit to put across certain points of the move he is showing (pressure exactly). Rather than concentrate on what I should be doing he shows what I do when opponent does this, this or this in a way that makes failure seem inevitable. Hope that makes sense - I know what I mean O:)
7/10

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Solid review! Thank you for the kind words for PCE (Brandon is a brown belt btw. Longer than me). Mendes Bros is one of my favorites and TWIR is a gold mine for free. If you don't watch it you're missing out.

Has anyone used JJ Machado online material? It is one I had seriously considered pulling the trigger on.

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Originally Posted by iancattanach

Torrent them all.
You can't hold back the information from the lower class.
Actually you can't hold back information from people who are smart enough not to pay.

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You've obviously heard this by now, but +1. It's not big corporations running these websites, it's martial artists passionate about what they do who are trying to make a living off of knowledge they've worked their asses off to acquire. The grappling community is tiny compared to any other industry, It's identical to downloading music from a struggling artist making music.