What % of 10th planet guys wear cups? Thoughts on them? Looking at reddit's JJ threads about them, most gi guys don't wear them, but a higher % of nogi guys do.
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What % of 10th planet guys wear cups? Thoughts on them? Looking at reddit's JJ threads about them, most gi guys don't wear them, but a higher % of nogi guys do.
I don't wear one
I'm mostly a gi guy, I don't wear a cup or mouth guard.
I always wear mine - gotta protect the big guy! :)
I used to hate them but I brought a proper fitting one and I don't even notice now it tbh
I don't wear one and 99% of the time it's not an issue. I know in competitions they usually don't allow it cuz it could help your leverage for armbars. There are some dudes out there with unrefined knee-slice passes that you gotta watch out for, but I think I've only gotten one nutshot in 2.5 years and that was from a dude that had spaz written all over him. Probably best to keep an eye out for those dudes
On my first BJJ lesson I was told to not wear a cup because they're not allowed for comps (train how you compete).
At my current gym I would say more than 50% do in gi and no gi.
Those "spaz" guys are the ones that I feel are most likely to cause me or one of my team mates, or even him/herself injury. If you have to roll with them, just tell them you want to go ultra light. Sometimes the spazzys/spazzies/spazzeez *Did I just make up a descriptive word?* don't know that they're actually spazzing out. And if anything...just tap early and often if they start to spaz in a dangerous spot. I had a spazzy try to spaz out of the omoplata I had him in. He was bucking around all crazy. I recognized it and simply let his arm go because I believed that he would have possibly broken his own shoulder joint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arman Fathi
I always wear one, and banning them in comp is just dumb, imo.
I always wear one
I always wear mine unless getting ready for an ibjjf rules comp.
This X 1000. Mouth piece and cup are like seat belts, you never need them... until that one time that you REALLY NEED THEM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Walker
I have a student that lost a testicle at another gym because he wasn't wearing one. That's good enough reason for me...
As far as events that ban them.... Sure IBJJF, ban cups because they are "cheating" and ban having your foot barely across their hip in a straight ankle lock for being "too dangerous"....
I strongly recommend wearing cups. If you are competing in a tournament that bans them, you need to spend at least two weeks without the cup to prepare, otherwise the slightest brush scares the hell out of you - or at least that was my experience the first time I competed without a cup.
It's true that wearing a cup can help you finish an armbar or triangle - but as long as we all have the same advantage it's not an advantage. My testicles are important to me; I'd rather protect them.
The ONLY competitions I've been to that banned a cup was ibjjf. I always wear one and wish those guys that don't would put one on please. If your using your balls to get leverage to finish an armbar I'd suggest getting it deeper and squeezing your knees together instead
I remember one of Rogan's podcasts where he's talking about one special cup that goes up your butt like a g-string. He really liked that cup because it prevents the problem of your nuts getting a little bit out of the cup and then getting crushed by the edge.
Anyone know what kind of cup that was?
never have worn a cup or mouthpiece for 9 + years/ 90% nogi
caught 2-3 nut shots in than time
side note I hate those diamond cups they are pointy and hurt like hell!!
Sorry I can't leave this one alone. Its not only for injury prevention I just hate when I'm trying to check someone's oil and their balls get in the picture. Gross
Funny you mention this technique. I've been working on a defense for it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Surridge
1. arch your back and posture your ass up into the check
2. rotate hips around in a circle
3. make unbroken eye-contact
4. start purring like a kitty-cat
5. smile
I wear one unless training for a comp that don't allow it.
I wear one because my focus is MMA and they are used in competition. I have considered entering a grappling competition where they are not allowed so I would probably train at least a month without a cup for that. I like the Jaco short/cup combo.
But they are your nuts, so do whatever you want.
Gracie Tournaments don't allow cups either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Surridge
I'm sure there are lots of tournaments that don't allow cup . I'm only speaking from MY experience. I'd like to see a percentage of tournaments that allow cups versus don't. Again its not only about injury prevention
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottross
I wear one. I don't care what anyone else says about it, I'm looking out for mine (literally). I use to wrestle without a cup, and looking back I'm amazed I didn't accidentally hurt my nuts multiple times.
i train gi and nogi and the cup is always a must... when you get a knee downward on your nuts you will yell...cup why have i forsaken u..
That sounds like a Thai Steel Cup, they use for muay thai fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig Murray
No cup. I'll rock either the mouth guard or a stick of gum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig Murray
4 children is enough
What's a cup? Didn't wear one when I played hockey, still won't wear one today. Dont even get me started with mouthguards. Lol
Just a mouth guard for me, never have worn a cup. I could definitely see the argument for wearing one though.
I used to rock a cup every tourney and every practice. Eventually I got sick of rocking the extra layers and extra laundry - needing to wash it after every practice.
So no cup for me.
You have to wonder how hundreds of thousands of judo players and wrestlers have managed over decades and decades of practice not to have had this surface as a problem and this is in sports where you might think that the risk of impact and damage was higher than in jiu jitsu.
I have never known judo players or wrestlers express a concern about injury and the authorities presumably do not consider that it is a safety issue to be addressed.
I dare say that there is a small risk of injury although I have never seen any but then again I suspect that more testicular injuries arise when riding a bike and I would not think of wearing a cup just in case.
I guess we are not living in the same universe! My balls have been saved many times from being vaporized by some vicious knees. I'm pretty small compared to a lot of my guys and I've been kicked MANY TIMES over the years. Some were pretty bad and can't imagine what would have happened to me if I wasn't wearing a cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterm
Better be safe than sorry :)
Never wear one in training it's just something else to obsess over so to hell with it. Makes sense if people do wear them though , just not for me.
I'm still quite a young fella but when I find the right girl and settle down. I want to be able to have the conversation about kids and not have to answer her questions with "i do jiu jitsu without a cup, I want to have kids with you but currently I'm still searching for my balls."
Slight exaggeration sure, but I'm not willing to risk it. I don't want to look at photos when I'm older that lack my children in them and have to blame jiu jitsu for it. :D
I didn't wear one for ages and didn't notice it too much, but since I got one. I've never gone back. You talk about guys losing testicles? I would much rather my arm gets torqued a bit easier than my testicles are damaged.
While we are on topic though, how often do people wash their cups? No nasty stories needed, just wondering hygiene wise.
I have 3 sets of Cup/Compression Short Combos. I use all fresh clean gear for each session.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac Atley
I don't wear one, but have no problem with training partners wearing it - UNLESS..... they decide to grind it into my face.
In which case.... no.... just.... no. :(
The guys at our gym don't wear cups, but for sure on the mouth guards. We try to make sure everyone wears mouth guards. I've seen two people get teeth knocked out, one in "shadow" sparring, another in Jits with a spazzy white belt. Never a good idea to not have your mouth guard in. I think if you know how to move with out one it's no big deal. As long as no ones aiming. It seems like once very two months someone may move and the other person goes the same way and so ones nuts get smashed for a min, but it's not a big thing at our gym and that seems to work for the guys.