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Anyone have a tip/technique/tactic on how to finish triangles on opponents with wide body frames? I was rolling with a 210+ pound guy very lightly, got the triangle, but had a very very hard time getting the leg over the ankle of the leg that was going over the back of his neck because he was simply large as hell. I'm currently 173 pounds and 5' 9".
Other than the obvious answer of "try something else" you might consider this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limb_lengthening_methods
Cutting the angle to where you're cross bodied or using the Tepee would be my suggestions
The Teepee
Teepee..I'll try that out on the big dudes next time I get the triangle position. Ty all.
Can anyone elaborate on the teepee for a noob like me?
Gag reflex
Not a fan of a Teepee myself but cutting that angle by either under hooking the arm or leg has been working for me.... that being said I do have short ass troll legs
The "triangle frame" is what I've been missing, and shoulder scooting out as they try to drive in. This is fantastic. Thank you Eric and thank you to Coach Renzo. How could you not love Renzo? =DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ericp
Have a training video of that move Mick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick Broster
The most important part of Renzo's vid is "you must have just the neck and arm in the choke" I see way too many people trying to finish with the shoulder in the mix!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxTPSHHYeYQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt Thomas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxTPSHHYeY
If you needed the video to show int he post for some reason.
Thanks!
As you're triangle-ing your opponent, drive your fist into the neck in the opening that's created on the side opposite the figure four.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"
Do you stick your fist into their neck from under your leg or over your leg?Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
The leg will be behind the arm so its not in play...you are putting your fist in his carotid where his shoulder would normally be cutting off his carotid. I extend him away with my legs first (while still locked in a triangle)...put the fist in his carotid...then bring your legs back towards your head.
see this thread for good info on the gag reflex and vids of how to do from einstein
http://www.10thplanetjj.com/threads/...hanks-Einstein!
The way I remember it is if you're triangleing a guy but his trapped arm is on the opposite side of your torso that you'd want it and he is hugging your hip. Straighten out your legs while keeping them closed and do an S-grip behind your knees, then pinch your knees together like all holy hell. Nasty, practically unbearable nerve pain. It should be easy to transition to the omoplata from this positionQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt Thomas
Your torso is no-mans land. Don't allow his hands inside the center zone. Always win the center. If he wins the center, he can possibly stack you or trap your hip and regain his posture. Work on slowly breaking the posture and gaining inches on how high your legs get tied up on him. Pull his head to give you a moment where you can re-configure your legs and prevent him from regaining what he lost. If you feel too stacked, walk back on your shoulders/neck/elbows to get some breathing room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"
You got it broQuote:
Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"
Thank you. I'll give it a shot the next time I'm in the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arman Fathi
This way has always worked best for me.
The idea is to not burn your legs out by squeezing the less strong adductor muscles in your legs, so instead you create an angle and use your stronger muscles like your hamstring and quad to close their arteries. It's incredibly powerful, not energy intensive, and lot of the best triangle chokers do this. Jeff Glover has a saying to help people remember it. "It's called a tri-angle not a tri-in-front-of-the-guy."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsNtpxKVn5M
I can't embed two videos, so for this 2nd youtube video link if it doesn't automatically skip you to 4:15 go ahead and skip to 4 mins and 15 secs to see it in action against a much broader shouldered opponent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwj-x7-2bMQ#t=4m15s
I saw his vid where he dropped that gem of a phrase for triangle positioning. I never forgot it since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
There should be a move made called "tri-in-front-of-the-guy" =D. Maybe the no arm triangle where you use your fist in the legs against the neck?
I have short legs. I always have to cut the angle super sharp and try to get the shoulder out as well. I'm 5 ' 3" and 130lbs and I can do that to 230lb men, so for me the angle is key. Staying tight while you lock it up and also pushing off their hip to help you to get the angle right is good too.