ADCC Invitations

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03-26-2015, 02:07 AM
TThompson

ADCC Invitations

I just saw an article of the ADCC Invitations are being sent out (http://adcombat.com/adcc-invitations...ting-to-go-out), and after seeing and hearing about Geo's killer run through trials I really hope he will get his invitation to represent 10P. At least the super fights will be great to watch.
03-26-2015, 02:47 AM
Ryan Boor

He doesn't need an invite. Geo earned his spot by winning the North American Trials. 10P is headed to Sao Paulo :cool:
03-26-2015, 09:44 AM
Jack Hanley

We've also still go the West Coast Trials coming up. I imagine 10P will represent pretty hard there. After 40% of the winners of the East Coast Trials were pure no-gi guys, I am super stoked to see what happens at the West Coast Trials.
03-26-2015, 10:26 AM
Chris Herzog

Someones not paying attentch
03-26-2015, 10:29 AM
David Rosado

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Originally Posted by Ryan Boor

He doesn't need an invite. Geo earned his spot by winning the North American Trials. 10P is headed to Sao Paulo :cool:

Yeah it's gonna be crazy to see how Geo fares in the deepest of the deep. It's a shame he hasn't been able to compete in no gi worlds because he got ranked too quick. I'm super excited to see what he does. I'm really hoping for some truck work. I'm predicting at least one calf crank.
03-26-2015, 11:26 AM
Mike Nall

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Originally Posted by TThompson

I just saw an article of the ADCC Invitations are being sent out (http://adcombat.com/adcc-invitations...ting-to-go-out), and after seeing and hearing about Geo's killer run through trials I really hope he will get his invitation to represent 10P. At least the super fights will be great to watch.

He's already there man. If you win the trials you don't need an invite
03-26-2015, 02:38 PM
Craig Murray

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

It's a shame he hasn't been able to compete in no gi worlds because he got ranked too quick.

Could you please explain what this is about?
03-26-2015, 03:33 PM
David Rosado

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Originally Posted by Craig Murray

Could you please explain what this is about?

IBJJF has rules for black belt competition. I forget the exact rule, but basically, he got promoted to black belt too quickly according to their rules. So until he completes the amount of years that the IBJJF requires, he can't compete in IBJJF at black belt. Otherwise, I'm sure he would've been all up in there.
03-26-2015, 03:49 PM
Aiseop

IBJJF has "time-in-rank" requirements in order to be recognized and to be able to compete in their events. It's a big money grab. First, your instructor must be certified by the IBJJF as a 2nd-degree black belt, which costs about $500-$700, as you must 1. pay for the certificate (~$400) 2. attend and pay for an IBJJF rules event ($100) 3. take CPR training. 4. actual yearly membership Second, you yourself as a black belt must pay the above plus extra "new "membership" processing fee. Eddie is not IBJJF certified, but Geo was going to do it through Jean Jacques Machado. He started the process but was told he did not meet the "time-in-rank" requirements to get to black belt. In other words, he could have participated but only as a brown belt. LOL (There's a minimum amount in each rank that you must remain in before you are acknowledge to be promoted to the next belt.) There are no exceptions; which is strange b/c at any other sport, when you get "called up" to the majors, you get called up.
03-26-2015, 05:06 PM
David Rosado

So will Geo be able to compete at black belt at all? Like if he waits a year or more?
03-26-2015, 05:30 PM
Aiseop

I am not sure. But I'm pretty sure all he would have to "technically do" is alter his black belt promotion date on the application and have that be signed by JJ. ...so it would be a matter of integrity and whether he is willing to submit himself to the IBJJF on this matter. Personally, I'd love for him to go in and rock the IBJJF NoGi Worlds and Pans, at least one year; whether that's worth the cost of literally "debasing" himself for the IBJJF seems like it could be a high moral price. (Moral in the sense of the broad definition of "just" and "personal integrity." Is the gain worth it? How would we define the gain if things like EBI and ADCC are already exposing him?) I'm sure there's a certain sector of BJJers who would need to see him win at "their" game. But if he beats one of their top IBJJFers I'm sure they'd recognize that. The chance, of course, was at a Metamoris, but now with this whole mess, that invite seems to be out. Maybe if Eddie can get someone like the Mendes, Caio, Bruno, et al to go up against him at a future EBI it won't matter. The interest would MOST DEFINITELY be there.
03-26-2015, 06:59 PM
Jack Hanley

ADCC is the real deal. The IBJJF is just an upstart in terms of nogi and has a terrible watered down rule set. I wish all pure nogi guys would just boycott the IBJJF and look to the real world championship which is ADCC.
03-26-2015, 07:43 PM
Jack LaBarge

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

IBJJF has rules for black belt competition. I forget the exact rule, but basically, he got promoted to black belt too quickly according to their rules. So until he completes the amount of years that the IBJJF requires, he can't compete in IBJJF at black belt. Otherwise, I'm sure he would've been all up in there.

Of course this is a newer rule. There has been numerous Brazilians who earned their black belt quickly and still competed in the black belt division. Example: Cobrinha earned his black in 5 years and Caio Terra earned his in 3 years etc. etc. Its a bullshit rule!!!
03-26-2015, 07:50 PM
Solicit

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Originally Posted by Aiseop

IBJJF has "time-in-rank" requirements in order to be recognized and to be able to compete in their events. It's a big money grab. First, your instructor must be certified by the IBJJF as a 2nd-degree black belt, which costs about $500-$700, as you must 1. pay for the certificate (~$400) 2. attend and pay for an IBJJF rules event ($100) 3. take CPR training. 4. actual yearly membership Second, you yourself as a black belt must pay the above plus extra "new "membership" processing fee. Eddie is not IBJJF certified, but Geo was going to do it through Jean Jacques Machado. He started the process but was told he did not meet the "time-in-rank" requirements to get to black belt. In other words, he could have participated but only as a brown belt. LOL (There's a minimum amount in each rank that you must remain in before you are acknowledge to be promoted to the next belt.) There are no exceptions; which is strange b/c at any other sport, when you get "called up" to the majors, you get called up.

I am not sure if Geo has tried to compete in any IBJJF tournament since being a Black Belt (if so than I am wrong and I apologize), but I do remember Boogey and Geo were both trying to compete as Brown belts and got denied based on the "time-in-rank" or whatever you want to call it. They had some posts about getting denied a while back, but that was for sure when they were both Brown belts. I thought they had decided not to compete in IBJJF because of it and have never entered again since. Again, I could be wrong.
03-27-2015, 03:05 AM
TThompson

My bad guys I got ADCC mixed up with IBJJF Worlds and Pans. Sorry for the confusion because I knew he won all his matches by submission, I just got confused. Obviously then he will represent his killer technique. I'm a little slow at times hence the white belt.