Garry Tonon (OCBJJ) vs Mansher Singh Khera (Marcelo Garcia)
This match took place yesterday if I'm not mistaken. Don't think it's been posted on the forum before. Apologies if it has.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD4ytY0cFE4
Garry Tonon (OCBJJ) vs Mansher Singh Khera (Marcelo Garcia)
This match took place yesterday if I'm not mistaken. Don't think it's been posted on the forum before. Apologies if it has.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD4ytY0cFE4
Nice match...what happened at the end there between Garry and Dillon??? No audio
Thanks for posting. Amazing watching Tonon attack
Yeah, apparently the end was a bit controversial and things got a bit tense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Boor
Here's what Gary Tonon's coach, Tom DeBlass, wrote on FB on the matter:
"I want to clear the air about something. Everyone at the competition today saw it got very intense between Garry's corner and Munches corner after Garry won.
What happened was after the match Dillon and Matheus started chanting for Munch to get two points. So then a bunch of Alliance athletes did also. I immediately got up walked on the mats and screamed "there was no points!" I was nervous the ref would be swayed by the judges. (Although he wasn't and he did great) Dillon and Garry are both hungry young lions and two of the best up and comers in the world. They will clash eventually.
Those of you who asked me what I said when I walked up to the Alliance guys and think I was talking shit. I wasn't. I was not arguing. I was explaining to Dillon and Matheus why Munch did not earn two points. They were both super respectful to me. Yes Garry walked up to Dillon after the match and said something. Dillon was yelling Munch deserved points and Garry was pumped from just winning an amazing match. No Dillon wasn't happy. It is what it is. Both of you guys are amazing and I look forward to you possibly facing one another some day.
The last thing I'd ever want is a fight to break out after a great Jiu-Jitsu match and that was no where near happening. Trust me if I thought there was going to happen things would have been much different. I am team Renzo/Almeida and will be until death due us part.
Great day today everyone competed great at the UGA."
Apparently, there seems to have been some sort of beef (for lack of a better word) going on between Tonon and Marcelo's best brown belts, which made things worse with the controversial end.
www.jiujitsutimes.com/caption-this-picture-garry-tonon-taunts-dillon-danis/
Damn, I feel like TMZ now... :o
Here's a better video of the whole match and aftermath:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdKJx651g2A&feature=youtu.be
Munch's single leg X is nasty
Ahh the world of Jiu jitsu is never lacking drama, ego, politics, rivalry, and other crazy shit. I LOVE IT! Could recent events be the beginning of a new era of Jiu jitsu? Time will tell. Getch yo poppycohrn ready!
I'm only about 9:30 in so far, but this is an awesome match. Thanks so much for posting, Mikael.
I like Ricardo Almeida watching on the side. He looks like a scientist observing some natural phenomenon out in the field so that he can take his findings back to the lab.
Very tricky attempt by Tonon just before the 15 min mark. When he was shoving Mansher's reaping foot deeper into the reap, it looked like he was trying to do the move you normally do on the non-reaping leg where you make sure the toes are trapped and then pull up on the heel.
Sorry, I know that is a pretty unclear description of what I am trying to say. But, it's the move Lister shows in his seminars (and iirc on his latest instructional) as the rationale for not putting the non-reaping foot under the same leg you are attacking.
You can do it on both, On the reaping leg its a inverted heel hook, and on the non-reaping leg its a standard heel hook. In order for it to work well on the reaping leg, the opponent has to be outside facing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hanley
Awesome match. Tonon looked a little tired to me - his schedule has been pretty mad as of late. Munch though looked immune to anything thrown at him - it's funny because you'd think with Marcelo not liking footlocks that would be the one area of his game that'd be lacking, but I don't think I've seen another guy as relaxed as he was when you have that monster (Garry) grabbing at your feet!
I'm really glad more no-gi tournaments are adopting the negative point for guard pulling.
It looks like this match was ADCC Finals rules (negative points for guard pulling at any time) instead of ADCC Qualifying Round rules (only negative points for guard pulls in the points period). (See here).
This match was exciting, and is an excellent counterpoint to the people who fault the ADCC guard pull punishments for producing the boredom of the last Cobrinha/Rafa Final. Eventually, the rule should just weed out all the high level guys who can't function without the guard pull.
Isn't heart-breaking a match of this calibre is going on with the opponents making near nothing, it being aired only via social media and with hardly anyone knowing about it? It breaks my heart that JiuJitsu has so many athletes at such a high level going unrecognised whilst athletes in other sports are getting paid $/£millions to sit on benches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hanley
100%. The flip side of that coin is that maybe someday there will be dudes looking back at us with envy because we got to experience grappling in its golden age when people did it just for the love of the sport instead of the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apperz
Yeah, its great Munch lost for a guard pull, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hanley
Interesting point Jack. And if in the future, high level grappling matches like these become a high revenue *for all involved* event, they probably will look back and romanticize this "Golden Age" of the sport, but I'm also pretty sure that they'll rightfully expect, appreciate, and depend on their future high incomes *the dream right?* to feed themselves and their families and loved ones. So yes, there will be a time when this time period will probably be highly romanticized. By then though, are we going to be telling "back in my day stories?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hanley
-us "Back in my day, we used to walk to jiu jitsu class, uphill, BOTH WAYS, IN THE SNOW!......BAREFOOT!"
-future grandkids "Mom, Grandpa Jitsu is telling back in my day stories again!"
http://martialartsottawa.com/wp-cont...66715977_n.jpg
This is the closest picture I could find of a non-specific grandpa doing jiu jitz.
One interesting thing is Tonon still ended up playing guard quite a bit. He was just able to do it without sitting or butt scooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquidrob
Munch got penalized when he sat. Penalizing sitting down as a form of combat makes sense to me.
I totally agree. Even if grappling blows up and guys look back on this era as a golden age of grappling, they probably won't ever want to trade salaries with today's grapplers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"
Thanks for posting that match big fan of both grapplers!