Perfecting the electric chair

I need some tips and advice on hitting the electric chair. This is a technique I have been perfecting since September and recently I have been decent enough to hit it on small and big guys, whether they tap or not depends on their size for me. Here is my problem that a ran into last night, I had lockdown plus both under hooks (my right arm was under the leg). I was on my right side and as I tried to whip up my opponent would base out and I couldn't whip up, and eventually I got my left arm under his body and gable gripped my hands and tried to pull his leg with a whip yet again the way he based made it impossible to move him. Anything would help and the guy had at least 40 pounds on me, but that has never stopped me before. Thanks for any advice.

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Originally Posted by TThompson

I need some tips and advice on hitting the electric chair. This is a technique I have been perfecting since September and recently I have been decent enough to hit it on small and big guys, whether they tap or not depends on their size for me. Here is my problem that a ran into last night, I had lockdown plus both under hooks (my right arm was under the leg). I was on my right side and as I tried to whip up my opponent would base out and I couldn't whip up, and eventually I got my left arm under his body and gable gripped my hands and tried to pull his leg with a whip yet again the way he based made it impossible to move him. Anything would help and the guy had at least 40 pounds on me, but that has never stopped me before. Thanks for any advice.

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I feel you, I've been experiencing this as well. One thing that's helped is going for the old-school sweep in conjunction with going for the electric chair. By going for that sweep first, if they defend it correctly by basing their leg out, it makes the electric chair that much easier. A detail that's helped me tremendously is to drive INTO the guy by driving your chest in once you have the electric clinch. I really like to cinch in that electric clinch and secure solid-ass underhooks and a tight-ass clinch. By driving my chest in from that point, it'll hopefully cause a reaction to have him drive into you, allowing you to roll over your shoulder and whip your lockdown to the opposite side, disrupting his base. You need to get his leg up on your shoulder by your neck. If it's on your bicep, it'll be weak. Sometimes it might take repeating this sequence two, three, four times or more until you get the space to push his armpit away and complete the sweep. But it sounds like you're believing in it more and more and it's the details and timing sequence. The more you believe in the steps and feel the right way vs. the wrong way, the more higher percentage it'll be. Hope this helps a little..

Arman gave you some really solid advice! What I do is, when I have the electric underhooks (double unders with one arm under the leg) I start to whip down. As soon as I begin to whip down, I swim my left arm inside, and C-cup his right bicep. When I'm in the middle of the whip down (when my back in flat on the floor) I punch my right arm to the sky, forcing his leg onto my shoulder. The C-cup on his bicep forces him to base out much further than he usually would, making the electric chair easier. From there, I would change the C-cup on his right bicep, to his left armpit (since its much closer to you now than his bicep was). Hope that helps :)

man, I really need a visual on this one lol. But still interesting to c different ways of doing the same thing.

Checkout MTS71, the way I described is just how Eddie does it

Thanks guys and that's all sound advice that I will have to try on my next roll. Plus I'll check out the MTS video because I think I can visualize it but seeing it will be better. Again thanks for the help!

slide your arse under the opponents center of gravity first, then whip. probably in MTS.

Greg W exactly, that helped me get more of of my electric chair and be able to do it against larger opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNiuuHikmIc

https://www.facebook.com/zachary.mas...08642111927361

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Originally Posted by Zach Maslany

Greg W exactly, that helped me get more of of my electric chair and be able to do it against larger opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNiuuHikmIc

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At 1:52, watch the little slide Garry does with his butt. That little slide really can make a huge difference.

More single arm curls in the mirror has helped take my electric Chair game to another level!

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Originally Posted by Josh Passini

More single arm curls in the mirror has helped take my electric Chair game to another level!

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Josh gave a couple great tips last time we talked about the electric chair. He talked about how it's a misconception that you want to extend your leg for ANy OTher time than a whip-up to get on your side or the whip to complete the sweep. Pinching your knees and not extending until you're sweeping the guy (think someone talked about that) has been a gamechanger for me. Also, we were shown the mechanic sweep which ties nicely into this sequence if a guy has a strong whizzer. I've been catching that one in the GI fairly easily since the guy is more trapped with his arm due to friction.

Easily my favorite sweep.

If they're bigger than you and they have a good strong sprawl, that's pretty much the hardest scenario. Unless they're hulk-sized it's usually still possible but you might have to summon some grit and make more than one whip with the leg. Torque it like you mean it — most of your ability to move their body weight is in your lockdown. If the whip stalls once, try not to let yourself roll all the way back to the start position. You don't have to give up. Torque it again. Throw a lot of mini-explosions into it. Might take three or four. Maybe more, depending on what's going on. Be like a ratchet with your legs. An aggro ratchet. If you can get your shoulder under the knee you're probably home free. If they're committed to the sprawl remember the option of moving to stoner control.

That's what usually works for me.

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Easily my favorite sweep.

If they're bigger than you and they have a good strong sprawl, that's pretty much the hardest scenario. Unless they're hulk-sized it's usually still possible but you might have to summon some grit and make more than one whip with the leg. Torque it like you mean it — most of your ability to move their body weight is in your lockdown. If the whip stalls once, try not to let yourself roll all the way back to the start position. You don't have to give up. Torque it again. Throw a lot of mini-explosions into it. Might take three or four. Maybe more, depending on what's going on. Be like a ratchet with your legs. An aggro ratchet. If you can get your shoulder under the knee you're probably home free. If they're committed to the sprawl remember the option of moving to stoner control.

That's what usually works for me.

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+1. In other words, BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Arman Fathi

I feel you, I've been experiencing this as well. One thing that's helped is going for the old-school sweep in conjunction with going for the electric chair. By going for that sweep first, if they defend it correctly by basing their leg out, it makes the electric chair that much easier. A detail that's helped me tremendously is to drive INTO the guy by driving your chest in once you have the electric clinch. I really like to cinch in that electric clinch and secure solid-ass underhooks and a tight-ass clinch. By driving my chest in from that point, it'll hopefully cause a reaction to have him drive into you, allowing you to roll over your shoulder and whip your lockdown to the opposite side, disrupting his base. You need to get his leg up on your shoulder by your neck. If it's on your bicep, it'll be weak. Sometimes it might take repeating this sequence two, three, four times or more until you get the space to push his armpit away and complete the sweep. But it sounds like you're believing in it more and more and it's the details and timing sequence. The more you believe in the steps and feel the right way vs. the wrong way, the more higher percentage it'll be. Hope this helps a little..

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This. To stop the electric chair they have to bases certain way and that actually opens them up for the old school sweep or at least a modified version. I rapid fire a handful of sweeps until I catch them slipping.

After reviewing the videos and some other sources here, I will definitely try some of these adjustments. Thank you guys for all the help again it means a lot to help improve my game. I do remember though when I went to hit old school my under hook of his leg was stuck so I was unable to grab his foot to sweep him that way. Again I'm going to try these little adjustments to make bigger gains, so I cannot wait to try them out. Again thank you guys for all the information.

I suggest looking at the bigger picture. Electric chair works best for me when I look at it as a piece of the puzzle that is half guard bottom. My goal in half guard is to get the leg hooked with one arm and I have my other (higher) arm ready to reach around their back. then once I am ready, I wrap my arm around their back and I go for Dogfight. this has they same principle as pressing into them except you are aiming to get somewhere and if they don't fight back then you will get there.

Then I go for the electric chair and the thing I've really found important, is the timing of swinging my legs. I found that if I twist with my upper body first and then follow through the legs, I get the best results. (I think everyone should figure out timing for themselves though)

If electric chair doesn't work, and you just can't budge them, you can start stomping and working from either butterfly guard or homie control/prison guard.

I see half guard as a transitional guard. It is a very very active guard, where you cannot rest, it has to be prodding and pushing and pulling. make physics work for you rather than against you. remember the three bases rule. switch things up and practice not just each technique by itself but as a whole and you will really start seeing results.

Of course Brent is right in saying there are other sweeps to go for, like old school etc, I prefer the mixture of dogfight electric and stomp because they seem to attack their base from different directions more than others. I'm sure as I get better, I'll add in more parts.

I hope this helps.

Roughly 30 seconds start to finish... Electric Chair win at the Alaska state BJJ tournament, forgive me for the GI.
Justin x Zach: https://youtu.be/X4f9Q3hnh4g