transporting marijuana?

if you dont live in cali and cant get a legal marijuana card.. but still refuse to support a law that says you cant do something that benefits you because the govt cant profit off of it.. then heres a couple tips. First.. keep your weed inside a clocked glove compartment with your license and registration between the seats. and then if the you get pulled over they cant legally search in your locked glovebox without a.) your permission, or b.) a search warrant.. and trust me, no cops going to go get a search warrant for your glove compartment. ALSO.. if you put it in a sealed envelope with an address and stamp, they cant open it because the cops cant legally open your mail. Just thought id share that with you.

oh boy, from over here that sounds like a sweet fairytale.... here they let you piss on a test strip and if its positive they got the right to basically strip your car down to the wheels

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oh boy, from over here that sounds like a sweet fairytale.... here they let you piss on a test strip and if its positive they got the right to basically strip your car down to the wheels

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Wow! Thats crazy! What a bunch of fascist bull shit! Sorry to hear that bro.

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oh boy, from over here that sounds like a sweet fairytale.... here they let you piss on a test strip and if its positive they got the right to basically strip your car down to the wheels

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They can do that here, but only at the border crossings. The standard for a search is much lower at a border crossing and they essentially have the right not only to strip your car down to nothing, but they don't even have to put it back together if they don't find anything. I started making a LOT fewer trips to Canada after I learned that. My ex is a prosecutor. I remember her telling me that when she was in school and showing me the case law about it. I flipped out. I mean, I understand that security interests are higher at a border crossing but I found it very interesting that the presumption of innocence does not apply until AFTER you cross the border. You effectively have no rights as an American citizen until AFTER you've crossed the border -- which makes international travel that much scarier to me.

Last time I crossed the border to go to Grappler's Quest in Boston the border guy searched our trunk, opened all our bags threw everything out and then just left all the stuff mixed together and just gave us a big smile. We only realized he trashed our trunk when we got to Boston :( Douche

In Los Angeles I see people getting pulled over and cops searching their cars everywhere. I am not sure about the law, or if these guys are giving the cops permission or not, but I can see from their curb sitting faces that they are not happy about it. You know sometimes cops auto assume certain rights like boarding your boat, vehicle or getting inside your house. You gotta stop them and say, dude take it easy, go to court and get some permission.

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In Los Angeles I see people getting pulled over and cops searching their cars everywhere. I am not sure about the law, or if these guys are giving the cops permission or not, but I can see from their curb sitting faces that they are not happy about it. You know sometimes cops auto assume certain rights like boarding your boat, vehicle or getting inside your house. You gotta stop them and say, dude take it easy, go to court and get some permission.

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You've got to know your rights and be proactive in defending them. Law enforcement will try to get away with whatever they think they can get away with on an uninformed citizin.

If a cop has reason to believe you have drugs in the car, all he has to do is have a k9 unit come and walk around your car. If the dogs hits on your car, he will search it. Cops here in Indiana do random stops for speeding, etc. but they often use a k9 unit and will do a walk around everytime they pull someone over.

I know here in ohio the cops cant even search your car without permission. k9 or not. And if you DO give them permission to search it, they cant look in your locked glove box. all they can do is say "youre going to need to open that".. to which i respond.. "no, i dont have the key" or "no, i dont want to" they cant force you to. and same thing with the mail. They can try to tell you that you need to open it.. but legally if you say no they cant make you.

fuck a cop, i throw down smoke sessions in the public restrooms of the lapd

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fuck a cop, i throw down smoke sessions in the public restrooms of the lapd

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Oh Shit!!!! Look who's in da house!!

I thought he died?! Hide your chicken!! (and isnt there some sort of tax fraud involved here?)

you guy ever just palm stuff when cops are talking to you

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Wow! Thats crazy! What a bunch of fascist bull shit! Sorry to hear that bro.

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what really makes it fascist to me and keeps me thinking is that when you ask around people think that these kind of procedures are ok. same thing with free speech ... not that i dont like my Kraut`s but i think freedom is not that importand to them

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I know here in ohio the cops cant even search your car without permission. k9 or not. And if you DO give them permission to search it, they cant look in your locked glove box. all they can do is say "youre going to need to open that".. to which i respond.. "no, i dont have the key" or "no, i dont want to" they cant force you to. and same thing with the mail. They can try to tell you that you need to open it.. but legally if you say no they cant make you.

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All they gotta do is pull u out of the car and fail u on the sobriety test. Driving under the influence is illegal. Once they impound your car after they arrest you....they search everything to document what you have in it so that you can't say they stole something....to include your glove box, not to mention probable cause to search...like "hey, smells like weed in here" or "we got a call about shots fired in the area and u fit the description, as a matter of public safety I am going to search your car for a weapon....glove box...marijuana falls under the "plain sight" doctrine and your hit. If they want u they will get u. Easier for u to just stay home

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All they gotta do is pull u out of the car and fail u on the sobriety test. Driving under the influence is illegal. Once they impound your car after they arrest you....they search everything to document what you have in it so that you can't say they stole something....to include your glove box, not to mention probable cause to search...like "hey, smells like weed in here" or "we got a call about shots fired in the area and u fit the description, as a matter of public safety I am going to search your car for a weapon....glove box...marijuana falls under the "plain sight" doctrine and your hit. If they want u they will get u. Easier for u to just stay home

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^^^Exactly what Kevin said^^^ If they want you they will get you...

yeah kevin hit it on the head. Also all vehicles passing through ports of entry as well as a 50 mile radius ( mite have changed since my academy days) surrounding are subject to "inspections" which carries a much lower standard if any, than "searches". In arizona they tried to use this justification to have border patrol agents patrol in downtown phoenix because of the broad lattitude they have. Its also why TSA can body scan and search without without a warrant. And i mean no disrespect but the envelope with a stamp idea is laughable to me as a former cop and i wouldnt recommend anybody swearing by it. If i can smell it i have probable cause to search. end of story. The federal standard for opening mail is for mail in official transit which does carry a very high
standard, but does not apply to an envelope in your car.

and this is what i absolutely love about the 10th planet family. cops and stoners on the same forum with no BS exchanging ideas and experiences.dont know where else you can find that lol.

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yeah kevin hit it on the head. Also all vehicles passing through ports of entry as well as a 50 mile radius ( mite have changed since my academy days) surrounding are subject to "inspections" which carries a much lower standard if any, than "searches". In arizona they tried to use this justification to have border patrol agents patrol in downtown phoenix because of the broad lattitude they have. Its also why TSA can body scan and search without without a warrant. And i mean no disrespect but the envelope with a stamp idea is laughable to me as a former cop and i wouldnt recommend anybody swearing by it. If i can smell it i have probable cause to search. end of story. The federal standard for opening mail is for mail in official transit which does carry a very high
standard, but does not apply to an envelope in your car.

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You got it bro...and the postal inspector has his own guidelines (looser then one would think) where he can open "suspicious" mail....they know what's going on :)

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You got it bro...and the postal inspector has his own guidelines (looser then one would think) where he can open "suspicious" mail....they know what's going on :)

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yeah I did an internship with the postal inspectors during my undergrad. some pretty sharp cop work goes down there

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and this is what i absolutely love about the 10th planet family. cops and stoners on the same forum with no BS exchanging ideas and experiences.dont know where else you can find that lol.

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I agree and also think it helps emphasize not all pot heads are losers with no ambition in life and not all cops are douche assholes with a power trip:)

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yeah I did an internship with the postal inspectors during my undergrad. some pretty sharp cop work goes down there

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When I was with the DEA we did a few jobs with those guys...some people cant believe that their are Gun carrying agents in the post office...the guys I worked with were a great group

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if you dont live in cali and cant get a legal marijuana card.. but still refuse to support a law that says you cant do something that benefits you because the govt cant profit off of it.. then heres a couple tips. First.. keep your weed inside a clocked glove compartment with your license and registration between the seats. and then if the you get pulled over they cant legally search in your locked glovebox without a.) your permission, or b.) a search warrant.. and trust me, no cops going to go get a search warrant for your glove compartment. ALSO.. if you put it in a sealed envelope with an address and stamp, they cant open it because the cops cant legally open your mail. Just thought id share that with you.

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Your talking like you have something to be scared of. Ohio was the first state to all but decriminalize marijuana possession 15 or so years ago. $25 fine (considered a non-moving violation) for like 6 oz's and up to 24 live plants as long as they are hand watered. I did one of my finals on the subject. Up until a few years ago in Indiana, you could get 7 years (same amount for man slaughter)for every seed found and charged with felony cultivation. At present up to 30 grams is a misdemeanor and over 30 is a felony.

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All they gotta do is pull u out of the car and fail u on the sobriety test. Driving under the influence is illegal. Once they impound your car after they arrest you....they search everything to document what you have in it so that you can't say they stole something....to include your glove box, not to mention probable cause to search...like "hey, smells like weed in here" or "we got a call about shots fired in the area and u fit the description, as a matter of public safety I am going to search your car for a weapon....glove box...marijuana falls under the "plain sight" doctrine and your hit. If they want u they will get u. Easier for u to just stay home

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im talking about transporting it. you shouldnt fail a sobriety test?

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im talking about transporting it. you shouldnt fail a sobriety test?

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Oh, if they stop you and want you to "fail" you will fail....

Since when do you have to do a sobriety test? At least from my understanding you don't(correct me if i'm wrong cause it would be good to know).. At least from my experience(in Texas, Travis county).. I've gotten a lot of speeding tickets.. claim my amendments(cars never been searched.. even though I don't have anything to hide thats a huge pain in the ass) go to court if I have to and clear it up really quick. Slightly inconvenient but its better than paying for a ticket or having it on your record.

And as far as driving under the influence of alcohol... my policy is say no to the breathalyzer and when they arrest you, say no to the blood test. You spend one night in jail and have your license automatically suspended for 3 months.. its better than risking a dui(not saying I dui or support it... but shit happens)(also this happened to my friends brother recently and I'm not sure if thats exactly how he went about it but his licence was auto suspended for 3 months so its very likely it is.. I could ask)

Same guy got pulled over when he was younger.. and stupider as far as his rights. Cop searched his car found marijuana and claimed "plain sight" etc..(after the fact lol) that kevin was talking about.. but he beat it in court.

The system doesn't completely screw you if you don't let it.. cops will try and nail you but you can usually find a way to beat it if you don't screw yourself for no reason.

Thats my 2 cents

If I was going to smuggle anything at an airport the first thing I would do is make sure that my name wasn't Nabeel because that's pretty much a ticket to the front of the line for a full body cavity search.

I live in texas and have been searched many times. the first time I was in my car with 3 of my friends and we had smoked in the car. Right after we finished smoking my friend decided to call a guy riding his bike a Faggot without realizing that there was a cop parked at the next light. The guy on the bike told the cop we threw something at him and they pulled us over. We managed to ditch the pipe without the cop seeing it and my friend in the back seat ate the weed we had. That didn't change the fact that my car reeked of pot and 2 cops searched the inside of my car thoroughly. They didn't find anything inside so they didn't search my trunk strangely enough. They didn't even search us personally not even a pat down. I don't how these laws work but I am assuming if they don't find anything in the main cabin of the car they can't search the trunk and they won't do more than a pat down on you if that. Or maybe these cops were just lazy though they we sure we had stuff in the car by how it smelled.
Another incident happened a couple of weeks later when me and the same friends were parked at a park playing frisby. The same cops saw and searched our cars without us committing a moving violation. They said they got calls about us fighting in the field even though were had done nothing of the sort. The search was without a doubt illegal and we knew and despite us stating our rights and pointing out every legal rule we knew of they still searched the cars and when we asked for badge numbers (which they are legally required to give you or face termination) they handcuffed us and said if we continued to resist we would be charged with obstruction of justice. They once again didn't find anything and they refused to give badge number. We reported the incident and did what we could short of suing the police department and nothing ever got done. The point of the story is cops will break laws to catch people breaking laws. You can no your rights and state them to the officers and they will ignore it if they feel they can bust you for something, because even if its an illegal search they can just say it was probable cause if they did find something. I would never recommend transporting drugs of any sort or smoking and cruising around at least not in texas, its a game of chance and really the only way to trump the cops is with a damn good lawyer when the shit hits the fan. If you must drive around with weed only have enough to where you can easily eat the weed before you are searched.

Me liveing in mexico ive had alot of things happen to me at the border.once they took my car apart in the inside. Didnt find nothing.gave me the keys told me to leave. No sorry or put it back together.only the driver seat was still bolted.the reason.because my brother got nervous when they asked him a couple of questions.the bad part about they treated us like shit.they told us to get off the car. Kicked our legs open twisted our arms just like sakuraba did to royler. For no reasons. The funny part about it a couple of years later. I ran into one of the custom agents.showed up at one of the places i used to train at.wanting to sighn up for classes.took the intro class.rolled around.when it came to me choked the shit out of him.wasnt going to say nothing.but couldnt hold it back.told him thank you for taking my car apart fucker.never showed up again.