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Here he is rolling with Marcelo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Ujz5sCS3k
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Here he is rolling with Marcelo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Ujz5sCS3k
Fun! Thanks for sharing.
What do you make of this news Aiseop?
Love it! Get more of the casual MMA fan interested to watch jiu-jitsu! Roy McDonald vs JT Torres in Metamoris was a great match. (I know that some other MMAers weren't so, um, "engaged," but I'm for it. Let's see what Eddie's got in store.)
It'll be interesting to see if he can qualify himself.
I suppose Eddie could just invite him. But would he?
Askren would be a great grab for EBI.
At this point and time I disagree and here's why. Askren is a semi big name, only mma fans and wrestlers know him. General public, NO. Metamoris already had a huge name with Chael Sonnen. It did NOT help them and Chael fought in 3 ufc title fights, movies, appearances and main stream interviews everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Eddy
Eddie's vision is to make this sport we all love and bring it to main stream tv. Its fucking ridiculous that ESPN has fishing, poker, water polo, F'ing Ice curling, cross fit, etc. Eddie's knows it has to be action packed, with finishes for people that don't know the sport to watch. *And off topic, but please stop talking about the gi, general public will never watch that shit (f'ing gi guys ;)). So Eddie came up with the best rules in Jiu Jitisu to get that done. Its been great with positive feed back from all, even the haters. With Superfights with teens and children, which have been more exciting then the adults.
I really think the people who love this sport already, forgets Eddie's vision. Some guys aren't met for these rules. If you want this sport to grow to main stream where competitors get paid, possibly make a living competing, it has to be done with the right competitors. I'm not sold that Askren is that person. I think he could control guys positionally but I don't see any finishes. Nobody is trying to take him down either. I'm not sure Joe Soto fits. First no rash guard, all I will say is there would be more submissions in mma if they wore rash guards. That also apply's to nogi and more sponsorship opportunities. Even though Soto had submission attempts there was also times he wasn't engaging. I was fascinated with his matches but I'm a fan already.
BUT...... maybe I'm wrong.......What do I know.....Obviously MMA fans are probably one of the most important groups to get to watch EBI. That would require MMA fighters to be involved. Its just going to have to be done very carefully. aka SCHAUB
In my opinion there is only 2 mma superstars that would blow up the sport instantly. Number one would be Ronda Rousey and way below her would be Conor McGregor. They have both main stream and mma star power. Ronda more so than Conor.
By the way, I'm a big fan of Askren
I think Chael was a great grab for Metamoris. It brought their organization a ton of legitimacy and brought them past just being a niche event for bjj fans to being a large show for all grapplers. Their whole strategy of inviting MMA guys and guys from other disciplines has worked great for them. It has pushed their tournament past a show for just the BJJ crowd to a show for anyone interested in seeing who is the best grappler in general.
What hurt Metamoris has nothing to do with the competitors they have invited (at least in my opinion). It has to do with their management.
The framing that makes this sport interesting to me is who comes out on top in a pure grappling situation, no strikes. Catch? BJJ? Sambo? A top level MMA guy? What style wins? What moves win? Who is the best grappler?
Basically you're saying you think Askren is a little too positional and boring for EBI. Maybe so. But I think that's the job of EBI's format to correct. He'll have to find a way to survive and win under that format. And having names like him get thrown in the mix to see how they do is fun. It helps us answer the question we are asking. Who is the best grappler?
Dude, I rolled with Ben a few years ago. And he is an ANIMAL. HIS STYLE OF WRESTLING REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO THE FLOW OF Jiu Jitsu. I would LOVE to see him in EBI. Plus, he's a good dude.
Absolutely agree 110%!!! Bring him on in!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
I'm with you only 4 of his 14 wins a via submission, I'm not sure he'd be a good fit. Eddie wants the best finishers.
I'm very upset that I allowed my post to slip through with the caps lock on for half of it. I reprimand me sharply.
I thought you were just really emphasizing how good his style is for EBI.
I always have liked Askren,I wish he would attack with guillotines, darces, neckties, etc...he would be even more of a beastQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
He would be so fun to watch in an EBI if he attacked
I don't know, maybe. He's a good wrestler but he's kind of boring. How would he do, is the question? I think Tonon would devour him.
I would love to see Askren in EBI, even if he can't finish anyone, it would be a huge feather in someone else's cap to sub Askren. He may not be a world class sub guy but he is definitely a world class grappler and what happens if he gets to OT, can he defend from a bad position? Inquiring minds want to know :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Well to be fair 4/14 is nearly 1/3 of his wins, so there could be an argument made that his submission percentage is on par with a sport that requires multiple facets in order to be successful. But I actually haven't followed him too much so I'm not married to this view.
Would definitely be a great bump for EBI and submission grappling as a whole, especially on a more global scale perhaps.
Yup 29%, but again this is about Sub Only Jiu Jitsu not mma. And honestly I don't think its a bump at all. The average casual MMA fan has no idea who he is. I don't see it doing anything for EBI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross Davidson
I have nothing against the guy, but EBI's goal is to bring Submission Only Jiu Jitsu mainstream, he doesn't offer anything in that regard.
I like Ben and would like to see him get more credit for being a badass.I enjoy watching him.
I'm with Ben and Brandon; I'd love to see it.
SMFH.......wait; I got to shake my head again.
Ohhhh yes. Everybody wants to see Ben.
Wait, You know what everyone of you guys have in common? All of you love jiu-jitsu and all of you participate in jiu-jitsu.
EBI's goal is to bring jiu-jitsu to the mainstream. To people who do Not participate in jiu-jitsu. People who think a choke hold is something from WWE. Casual MMA fans who see two guys on the ground as boring because they're just lying on top of each other.
Eddie wants excitement, he wants finishes and Eddie's rules have been delivering. That's the only way JIU-JITSU will ever become mainstream OR at least on a sports channel for special events.
Eddie's vision if successful could be the biggest thing to happen to Jiu-jitsu since Royce Gracie in the UFC.
I understand why you guys want to see it. But you guys are already fans. IMO Askren isn't a fan draw except JJ and wrestling fans already.
Brandon, I know he's a beast. I've seen all his fights. I've seen a ton of his wrestling matches. He's a special talent. I'm positive he would postionally control most of the guys but to tap high level Blackbelts, I'm not seeing it.
I just think there's a much bigger picture here. I hope the competition and the goal of Eddie's rules doesn't get watered down.