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I am having a really hard time arm baring from mount no-gi. I feel like every set up leaves way too much space. I train with some 10th planet guys and I rarely see them even use mount, and I doubt they would arm bar from there. So do you guys have any solid no-gi arm bar set ups or is it just a move you don't use very much?
Also do any episodes of MTS cover this?
Mounted arm bar is one of my best attacks. If you are training with guys who don't use the mount, it's an indication of their lack of expertise in the position, not on the lack of effectiveness.
My suggestion is that you learn and master the basic arm lock from the mount first. This will teach you how to move your body and distribute your weight in the proper way. From there move to Spider Web.
Mounted Armbar is definitely legit. I've been hitting a nice one Andre Galvao showed. When countering my opponents hail mary mount escape, when they try to push my armpits to get space for their legs underneath, I just slide up on to their head and pivot my body into spider web type position but with my shin in their neck.
^There you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
I think mounted arm bars are one of my best attacks as well. They are definitely one of my most reliable finishes. As for setups, there's quite a few, but I mainly use something like this...
Skydive -> Neck hug -> Hand crawling their elbow up to the Chopping Block -> Cook them here a while -> Slide the knee up high on the side of the trapped arm -> Use my free hand to cup their free arm's tricep and pull it tight to my body -> invert my free leg (S-Mount) -> Various finishes
This setup by Ari Bolden is extremely similar to what I'm describing above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPexkHRiHDY
I also have a lot of success when I am in the Gangsta Lean (or any mounted position with one arm pinned), and they bring their opposite side arm in under your chest to free their hand or block your triangle. I trap that arm with my chest, control their trapped arm with a Twisting Arm Control / Gift Wrap grip into a figure-four grip, move to S-Mount, and finish.
Another option is to secure a neck-hug americana, and if your opponent prevents your unloop you can point their elbow towards the ceiling, and once again slide the knee high, go to S-Mount, unloop, and finish.
Good luck with your arm bars!
Sounds like the problem is I suck at using S-mount, I will definitely look to start learning this
You should. S mount is great. Mounted armbar or mounted triangle are great from there and keep you on top which is important to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenkati
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTBc8PBHEDM
This is my go to.
I've been using an s-mount similar to how Roger Gracie used it against Comprido with posting out the leg to add pressure. This has worked great for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDw_pDXq4dc
I'd say 80% of my finishes are armbars, and I'd say half of those come from mount, transitions into mount, or transitions out of mount.
There's a reason we have warmup escapes from there.
That video by Vinny is helpful. I'm honestly surprised so many people are saying they love the armbar from the mount. I assume most of you are no-gi only guys are mostly no-gi. The mount seems to be less common without the gi as a go to attack position since so many subs are lost without the lapels. The mounted armbar is always something I've struggled with. It helps to go to s mount first and I'm going to try some things in that Vinny Magalhaes video.
Are there any good mounted armbar specialists to watch? Rafa Mendes probably has the most armbars of any no-gi guy I can think of but he gets most of his from the back and the kimura grip.
You know, watching those videos, I gotta say......Zog does it better. LOL. I know I'm totally that guy. Whatever. I'm absolutely not knocking those videos. Vinny and Roger are obvious legends. But I gotta say, Zog is a kick ass teacher. The way he teaches S mount is so damn killer. You pull the guy into your lap. May not seem like that big a deal, but it makes the position so much tighter. I think that's the reason my big ass can get mounted triangles with ease from there. I can barely triangle from guard. But from S mount, if the guy makes the mistake of sneaking his arm under my leg, I get a wicked tight triangle. And getting my leg over for the armbar is money.
I'll bug him on FB about it. If we're lucky he'll hook us up.
Would love to see a Zog Mount video!