Interesting.......
http://www.bjjee.com/featured/metamo...e-garry-tonon/
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Interesting.......
http://www.bjjee.com/featured/metamo...e-garry-tonon/
Do a lot of people call grappling events fights? I'm not really cool with that. I was thrown off at first mostly because as I understand it Mr. Ralek Gracie is batshit insane and probably WOULD fight someone as scary as Tonon.
Seriously though grapple, roll, face, match, vs, anything but fight. It's not exactly a fight without strikes.
Lol
When I was at a Tonon seminar a few months ago he mentioned he was considering trying to compete in MMA. Is it a sub-only or MMA format that they are proposing?
Sub-only.Quote:
Originally Posted by NameLikeNoOther
Tonon also said something like "I hope we can arrange a rematch with Kron sub-only, or else we'll have to wait a few years until I start competing in MMA". If I remember correctly it was his post-fight interview after his win over Maxwell in Metamoris.
I would love to see Magalhaes face Tonon with EBI rules. Ralek fight makes no sense. It won't even be competitive.
Hope he gets paid up front....
That's a bold move Cotton
Let's see how it plays out for'em
I still don't understand whether this is a joke or not.
What do you call 2 guys boxing or kickboxing? Same limited rule set at grappling, only different ends of the combat spectrum.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaylorWolf
Question: if some guy came up to you and spit in your face and then you took him down and choked him unconscious, did you or did you not get into a fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by TaylorWolf
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
The spitter would be trying to throw punches or elbows or bite or whatever else though right?. I would probably say you neutralized him before there was a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
I hate debating semantics though... If it's common in the BJJ community to call grappling events fights I won't talk shit. That's why I asked. Still fairly new to the game.
Now that I think about it I do absolutely love the "superfights" you put on hehe and it's awesome in that context
Yeah you could say that. You could also say "oh gee, now that I look at it like that, I see why you call it a fight, thanks Eddie".Quote:
Originally Posted by TaylorWolf
You hate debating semantics, but you are the one who brought this up and took exception to a grappling match being called a fight. So you actually started the debate.
My advice, lean to tap when you've lost.
Exhibit A: BJ Penn's first book on Mixed Martial Arts. When citing why he grew to love competing in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, he spoke of how even if punches and kicks aren't thrown, the adrenaline rush and real-time intensity made jiu jitsu competition 'a fight.' You can tinker with the rules, but it's still a fight. An argument one could make is that Metamoris is not vale-tudo, which is unquestionably one of the more 'no-holds-barred' i.e. 'purist' type of rule sets when it comes to fights. At the end of the day though, a fight is a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaylorWolf
Mw too but i hope not! "i will let go of your heel when you give me my money!" Gary TononQuote:
Originally Posted by Diogo Trigo
Tonon is going to break this dude off so proper.
Taylor Wolf.
It's like saying a boxing fight is not a fight because it does not have grappling. About as accurate as a statement.
I've never thought BJJ matches should be called fights, but now you've put it like that, I think I'll have to change my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Larsen
Nice piece of evidence.