An Asian brother gets no love from the judges last night. The judges saw Nam Phan with his pimped out Honda Civic in the parking lot (didn't like it) and decided to give the decision to Garcia. :)
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An Asian brother gets no love from the judges last night. The judges saw Nam Phan with his pimped out Honda Civic in the parking lot (didn't like it) and decided to give the decision to Garcia. :)
I think that was the worst decision I've ever seen! There is no argument they could even attempt to make that would justify that decision.
I think they just suffered from dyslexia. Cause they were straight ass backwards!
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/12/...ic-report.html
Phan dominated the fight according to Fight Metrics as well. Baffling decision.
I feel bad for Nam he should have this bs over ruled
I just loved Joe's commentating about the officiating as well. He just lit into the Nevada State Athletic Commission and he was exactly right. That was totally a bullshit decision and I'm hoping to find an explanation for it in some article or blog in the next few days. Then we know which judges to educate with a hands-on demonstration of how MMA differs from boxing.
It's an ongoing pattern of awarding losses to guys who it appears COULD have finished the fight. Bullshit!
There should be enough retired old MMA guys now, that the athletic commission shouldn't have to continue using these old irrelevant traditional martial arts guys that are mucking up the system.
When Joe mentioned why the 12 to 6 elbows were banned (due to fears of "deadly" brick breaking strikes being used in fights) I just imagined a bunch of old fat karate dudes haggling over a table about the need to ban death touches, the den mak, and downard brick demo elbows.
Wow, I just watched the fight and only one judge got it right 30-27 Pham. Wtf!?! the other judges were on something for sure. Poor Nam...
I watched the fight with no volume. Garcia won. He may have gassed and thrown sloppy strikes with his hands down but he did win the first and third round.
none of those punches were doing anything, plus he was still outstruck by Nham. I could run around the ring windmilling for 3 rounds and win? I call BS
Jesse, I'm gonna have to agree with Sam on this one. After the fight was over, I didn't even bother to wait for the decision. I went to the bathroom instead, assuming that Nam won, no problem.
exactly...that's why we always gotta keep joe in the booth...he keeps it real. He said it's dumb ass decisions like this that make people point to mma and think it's rigged or dana is dialing up fights. The Athletic commisions provide the judges...and in Nevada, they are completely incompetent and know nothing about MMA....let's write some lettersQuote:
Originally Posted by Jason Hyatt
Describing Garcia as sloppy is an understatement. I think "ineffective" would be more apt. Even Garcia thought he lost.
I dont think the crowd was listening to Rogan during the fight. I have never heard such an angry crowd response before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse Bell
yeah kinda scared me lol i was waiting for some stuff to start being thrown into the octagonQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Patrick
WTF are you smoking brah? I wanted Garcia to win, and knew he got handled.... What aspects did you see him winning any round? Most strikes to the fist and shin of your opp with your face??? I'm not sure but I don't think it works like that. Is there a TMA "face Kata"? Some uber secret special move like up, down, up, down, B, A, start??? that you do with your face? If so that explains the judging, they just need to let us know it's actually a strike ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse Bell
yeah i just watched the whole fight.. and i guess if i squint really hard, cross my eyes, and throw in a couple of sneezes that get me looking away during some of nam's flurries.. I could possibly come up with a decision for garcia in the first and third.. But still, id say nam won easily. You have to REALLY stretch it in order to have garcia winning a round, let alone 2. (the first round was easier to give to garcia than the 3rd though..) i agree, nam got screwed.
complete bull shit, I think there is still a lot of boxing influence, in the commisions, and the " Old Guard " can't let go, I say only former MMA fighters, or 1 BJJ player, 1 wrestler, & 1 muy thai fighter, all retired and not instructing should be judges so every aspect of the game is understood, and revamp the whole scoring system, takedown 1 point, submission attempt 1 point, submission escape1 point, guard pass 1 point,Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis Ho
mount 2 points, back 2 points, ect reffs obviously don't understand the ground aspect, Nam had dudes back for 2 minutes
I think it was a way to pave the way for the WEC merge by having one of their 145lbs guys come in and win a fight to ensure a good cross over...my opinino, even if Nam got the decision (which HE CLEARLY should have) it was still a great fight and mission accomplished. Garcia lost, but hes a tough little bastard :)
I know what the judges look for and Garcia did exactly that. He was the aggressor. He was always trying to finish. Nam did a lot of blocking.
We must have watched a different fight :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse Bell
Yes, I saw Garcia moving forward (I agree) but he was eating alot of punches (un answered). Nam Coutner Punched and circled very well... anyone have the stats on thrown and landed??
Hertzog where are you?? :)
Hmm I think you are pretty much the only person who I have heard from who knew what those judges were looking for. So missing alot, being off balance, and getting lit up are the new win criteria?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse Bell
i seen the tap so nam one in my mind