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I need help currently with defending the twister pass (they call it the hip across pass on my gym). Anyhow my electric chair dogfight game has been getting so good at my gym that everyone is giving me their backs and preventing the lockdown. What do I do from here. I have tried undercooking and rolling and it works sometimes, I have also tried grabbing towards the head and rolling. Any other options? Thanks you for the help in advance.
Hip bump to top half is golden, Hip bump to the back is goldener.
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Thank you so much for the answer! However, this will reveal my ignorance but I am not sure how I would hit a hip bump from this position. If you could explain/clarify that would be helpful.
Yeah I'm lost too. :) The only hip bump i know is from full guard?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby.nemeth
I don't know much about jiu jitsu but if guys are going into twister side on me but they dont have a truck game, I'm going to try to get on my right side and get a knee in.
Try to insert a butterfly hook to his top leg. there's a few options with your hands, but I first try to get a grip or shallow overlook on my opponents exposed (top) elbow, and with the other hand cross face his neck or chin. Then elevate with the butterfly hook toward your head as you scoot your hips out and take his back. Hard to explain exactly, but really concentrate on getting that butterfly hook and you can play with the position. The big no-no is to avoid getting your arms too deep or else you can get kimura'd if your opponent is looking for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby.nemeth
I believe the best defense to the twister pass is stop it before it even begins...don't ever let someone get to that position to begin with. When someone has settled into the twister pass...they are at the 70 yard line of passing your guard at minimum and i feel like im being conservative with that estimate.
It's a little tougher and requires mad timing using the momentum as they sit into the twister pass but I've had success doing the shaolin sweep, using my underhook hand to cup their cross-facing elbow, catching them in quarter guard, using my other hand to cup their closer knee, and doing a granby roll essentially. Easier in the gi from my experience with the grips.
Octopus guard! This is my go to whenever they turn away, or if I can make them turn away, or if I can get under the arm, or pretty much anytime I can force it.
Hiesmann like stiffarm but maintain lockdown, when they are turned away sit up then drape your near arm over the back of their neck to keep the head down, grab the shoulder, lat arm whatever with that same arm to keep you glued to them and bam you are in octopus.
If they don't have their elbow on the mat and in your armpit (like they should) you can sometimes hit an arm triangle going under their near side arm, then bridge if you want, work to the back etc. If their arm/elbow is on the mat and in your armpit tight, when they turn to face your feet you can sometimes hit a face/neck crank and bridge for a sweep. Go to 1:22 in this video, just try not to land in full guard like I did, lol. - https://www.facebook.com/SolicitHipH...type=2&theaterQuote:
Originally Posted by bobby.nemeth
Would love to see a detailed breakdown on how to hip bump there, I do it but I lose people sometimes when I go for it.
https://youtu.be/Ra0jfISK9MgQuote:
Originally Posted by bobby.nemeth
Zach taught this stuffs on last MTS
There it is. You can see the hip bump sweep to top half is there as well. You just move the elbow from the lat to over hooking the hip, and roll up into top half.
Today was the first day I really actively put this into use since we did positional sparring from the guard. Grabbing the belt and trapping the guy with your grip made it like taking candy from a baby. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Nice! Definitely trying that. What do you guys go to if the guy has that shoulder pressure on your jaw and you still kinda have an underhook? Fight to clear the arm to get to this kinda setup or is there another go to for that.
And thanks a bunch that really helps
Here is Marcel Garcia doing the counter I was talking about in his roll with Demian Maia (!). Marcelo does it more with his classic 'suicide hook' since he's not really a half guard player, but same concept. The sweep is :30 into the video. Notice in particular how Marcelo controls Maia's elbow before doing the sweep:Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Guillotine
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eto-8UT5ZAQ
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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog