Joao Assis is a seriously talented Checkmat BJJ Blackbelt. That is huge man. Congrats to Jason Miller.
It would be cool to see the Miller vs Diaz fight happen, but I gotta say that I don't think Nick Diaz is scared of any man on the planet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al6UM...yer_embedded#!
"I think I should buy a gi"
Nice to see they are promoting more people without gis.
Classic triangulation IMO...
I Mayhem gets this fight eventually.
I don't believe that it was Joao Assis that gave him the black belt, it was Rafael Cordeiro.
I also think it's retarded that he said he never felt like he had ever trained with someone that he would accept a black belt from until he got to that gym.
Mayhem is the man. I actually think Nick and Jason are very similar in style. If the fight happens at some point, it will be a 3 rounder and I think there's a good chance it goes to the judges. If Mayhem starts fast and is aggressive, I think he can bully Nick. I'd love to get Denny's take on this fight.
Mayhem is a beast and Diaz VS. Miller would be sick.
Yer long over due in my eyes, Mayhem is awsome.
All Mayhem has to do is diet a little. The match was even offered at a catchweight... Mayhem doesn't want the fight as much as the publicity... Now Nick is fighting Daley in Jan.
To even challenge someone smaller is weak as shit. But to challenge them (title holder) to come up to your weightclass? Not very well thought out.
Only 8 more lbs to cut, don't be scared homie!
Diaz club punched him in the face. The little guy always keeps playing the gangsta card and punched his way into having to take a fight that he has nothing to gain and ever thing to lose with Miller. Doesn't matter...if that fight with Daly is official he's getting knocked the fook out anyway and he'll be glad to fight miller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Keeling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTV-fWL450
Message to wannabe gangsters who are professional athletes...make the smart decision and always keep your head. Now if you don't take the fight you're a punk and "scared homie" and if you do take the fight and lose or even win you gain nothing.
Sweet Nicky said he would fight him at 185...he's on tape...now he wants the fight at a lower wait...as soon as he found one Mayhem didn't want to cut to? C'mon son! Ain't nobody buying that shit. Nick club punched mayhem...didn't think Mayhem would be on him like this and catch fire and now he has to deal with it. He's right, mayhem doesn't deserve to fight him....he's the champ, but that's what happens when dumb as fresno kids try to be gangsta.
Where were you? Watch the replays... Jason instagated and threw the first punch, then he got dealt with. Jake actually hit him first, why not call out Jake? When Gil stepped in between them and shoved Jason, Jason's hands flew up, looked like he swung on Jake and/or Gil. That's when all Mayhem broke out LoL! Mayhem's own dumbass fault, although he was doing a favor for Scott Coker. It ended the CBS broadcasts.... You are right about it being a dumb fight for Nick to take, but he still offered... The fight was set up and going down. Jason dick tucked, plain and simple. Daley has a better chance of a w than Jason anyway, so in the end the fan's win.
Before you ask where was I... I was here..
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So first people give him shit for being "gangsta" and being a fighter, "he can't be an mixed Martial Artist and be ganster" said the douche-bags. Then he beat the shit out of Frank Shamrock, helped him off the mat and raised his hand, and people found out he has been doing mixed martial arts since he was a kid and they now question if he is "gangsta" enough to be repping the 209.Quote:
Originally Posted by James Davis
Give me a fucking break. How many retarded cards/stereotypes are people going to play before they just address the dude by what he is? He is a professional MMA fighter is one of the best in the world in his weight class. Nothing else about him affects that. Not where he is from, not that he smokes weed, not that he is probably more gangster than anybody knows, and not because he gives shitty interviews.
Of course Mayhem wants to fight him. He has beef with him and he likes making money. But, I don't believe that he would be promoting this circus shit show if he didn't know that he would make a lot of money off this fight.
Oh and I also don't believe that he would win, but it would be a great fight and I would probably pay to watch it. I like watching both of the fighters.
but I think you are missing the point. He "club punched" a guy. That translates to a bitch move in every circle. You balled up and through a punch at a dude not looking at you. Then the guy wants to fight you. You then offer to fight the guy at 185..but then think about it and realize it's a dumb idea so then you try to bounce out of it. Not because he is actually scared or couldn't beat mayhem..but because he is a world class fighter and has no PROFESSIONAL reason to fight. That's why he should have kept that right hand cocked and stayed out of it. I don't think he's a gangsta. I think he's a kid that let his persona get him into a stupid situation. Next time, as he learns how to behave as a champion, he will learn that you be the bigger person and never lose your head. Diaz took the bait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Valdez
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Ok Bill, I'm trying to be with you, but come on...you know damn well that is a club punch. Now I really don't have a dog in this fight, I think Nick would beat Mayhem. My thing is this whole "keeping it real" thing is stupid. Nick is acting like a product of watching too much hip hop and kids are looking at him. He's trying to market his self, I get it. However, champs don't club punch dudes. There was no way Mayhem was going to take out the entire Gracie Fight Team no matter who he punched. Sorry, it's real ez to throw punches when it's 1 on 50.
The only acting is being done by Mayhem, trust me. I was with Nick backstage before this fight. He honestly doesn't like Mayhem and they were very explicit in showing this. Jason was "trying" to hard. Everyone just ignored him. Talk to Nick or Nate for a few minutes, watch their behavior and then tell me it's an act. I know it's not. And Nick will admit he loses it sometimes when he shouldn't, but that is just Nick. The only part of Nick that wasn't gangster that night, was his shoes! I was all over him about his grey suede crocks! Look at my pic, I think it shows them ;) I don't blame Jason for soaking up the fame of this, but that is exactly what the Gracie camp was complaining about backstage before the fight. They were all pissed when Jason tried to hang out and chill with us. Was pretty straightforward about he was trying to get some fame and publicity off of them. That was before all this went down....
I don't think it boils down to being a 'club punch'. Think about what happened in less than 3 seconds. Dude comes in and gets someones face, you have 2 seconds left to decide what to do. pushing occurs and now 1 second left. It comes down to natural reaction. Obviously for Nick Diaz and everyone in the Cesar Gracie camp, its back up your crew. I guarantee you, if someone rushed my brother, they'd get socked in the eye. Than we could decide what kind of punch it was and who it came from.
At that point, it had nothing to do with bitch moves, promoting fights, or looking for reasons to fight. Mayhem triggered that punch by stepping up to Gil. Doesn't mean it was the right reaction by the Cesar Gracie camp, but that is what happens. I 100% believe Dana White when he says that is why you have security and you don't these people in the cage after fights. Way to much testerone and adrenaline for people to think about being professional.
I do agree with on there is no professional reason for Diaz to fight Mayhem. But you know what, there is no confidence in Mayhem that he could win a fight against someone like Diaz under 185. Too much strength loss. So we could play this "he's being a bitch" finger pointing all day.
Also, in some cases there is a fine line in a sucker punch. the confrontation had already been made and someone's gonna get punched. It doesn't mean that you have to be looking the dude in the eye when you punch him.
Oh and Mayhem couldn't win under 185 against Diaz, but Diaz is the favored(slightly) to win at 185. IMO.
Don't get me wrong, I really like watching Mayhem fight, I think he is a beast and extremely talented. I even think he very close to breaking out into the highlight of his career soon.
These are just my thoughts on that occurrence.
I mean..don't get me wrong...you know dude...I'm just a fan...so this is just entertainment for me. This is your life. Not trying to tell you what happened..you know. I'm just coming from the outside looking in. I want to see the fight...well actually I want to see Daley vs. Diaz more than any other fight right now. It will be fun to see if Daley can handle my boy's left. If he beats Daley, I frankly don't see him being around strikeforce long enough for it to matter. That's when he needs to focus on calling out GSP...heck...if kosheck can get a fight on pure shit talking, Diaz definitely should.
I think Diaz could win the fight no matter what weight they did it at. I mean, I find mayhem hilarious and love his fighting. I am not delusional though and he has not beat anyone in strikeforce of note.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Valdez
LoL! It's all good! Just wanted everyone to know a little truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by James Davis
fuck i love mayhem. hilarious and crazy skills. DON'T BE SCARED HOMIE
Its possible that Cordeiro awarded him the belt, since it happened off camera it is hard to say. However it would be highly unusual that Cordeiro awarded it, and Joao Assis would be the one to tie it around his waist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Valdez
CORRECTION courtesy of the UG:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Valdez
"Jason Mayhem Miller receives his black belt at Kings MMA from Rafael Cordeiro (courtesy of Fabricio Werdum) and gets into a scuffle."
wow a video about someone getting his black belt starts a war on the forum. good shit jason.
Bill is right here. This goes way back to the pro elite days, for those who remember. These 2 just don't like each other. There was alot that went on back stage, back in the day. Jan 29th both should be on the card. Expect fireworks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Keeling
LOL. I know, right? If these guys want to argue, well that is up to them. I'm just sending a congratulations to someone who has been training for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgrantham
I remember when Mayhem was a purple belt at Cobra Kai. I watched him battle at GQ North American Trials in Jersey in 2005. He went up against a crazy bracket that included Saulo Riberio, Xande Riberio, Formiga, David Avellan, Rafael Lovato Jr., Rick Macauley, Elliot Marshall, Jamal Patterson, and Chris Moriarty (who was also a purple belt at the time). I think Mayhem drew Saulo first round and lost on points(?), but he gave it his all.
Anyway...both Nick Diaz and Mayhem are warriors and both have my respect.
Both are warriors, absolutely.
^ How long ago? One of my students used to train at Cobra Kai. He did alot of privates with Adrian Ramirez also. That was around 06/07.
I agree! I just don't care for Jason always trying to be "that guy".... My own personal opinion, nothing more, nothing less. Half of it may be legit(antics), but that's about it...Quote:
Originally Posted by NelsonLucca
Mayhem was a purple in 2005 when I saw him at GQ North American Trials, but Mayhem trained under Laimon up through brown belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Keeling
Mayhem trained in the Gi up through brown belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian "ifreez" Freemantle
Here is a cool video of Mayhem and Vinny battling in 2007 at Cobra Kai in the Gi.
http://www.rawvegas.tv/watch/laimons...01b65b702fb057
Thanks for the info, I'll ask Mike about it this afternoon.
Jason, it sure is weird that one person awarded him his black belt and another tied it around his waist I agree.
Thanks for the video, so far I like watching everyone compete that is in the equation of this thread.
That was more of a rape than a battle ;) But at least he had the balls to step up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Eisner
MAYHEM needs to be in the ufc
who exactly has Diaz beat recently that is even in the top 25 ? Strikeforce's 170 is a joke. A fight with Miller would have sold, one of the few SF fights anyone really cares to see. He said on tape he'd take the fight at 185. I've seen the tape. I don't understand why he backtracked. Anyway, now he has to deal with Paul Daly, and I think his nice run outside the UFC is going to come to a screeching halt. Too bad, because I think, style wise, Diaz-Miller would've been excellent.
Fukin lol at him getting his BB now
Mayhem is A fuc*ing beast on the mat
I think he could compete in ADCC easily
i seen mayhem do a twister roll in one of his instructional videos, he never transitioned to the truck though i let go of the lockdown when he rolled and went straight to the back :) i know its off topic bu tthought id add it in :)
funny you should bring that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie.Gaffney
Check out the 11:00 mark on his fight with Jake Sheilds
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Jake...0&vid=10007650
Nick diaz isn't as "gangster" as everyone says. I'm subscribed to him on youtube and the music he has is nothin but deftones and dubstep. He just kinda talks the way he does because of where he's from. And he doesn't even talk that "gangsta".
He does have an attitude though, and punching Mayhem was definitely not a very classy move. There is no justifying that sorry.
And the mayhem diaz fight, well that really needs to happen because a SHITLOAD of money would be made off of it. EVERYONE wants to see it, lets not beat around the bush on that one.