what is a good mma scheduel for a 13 year old wanting to make it into the ufc?
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what is a good mma scheduel for a 13 year old wanting to make it into the ufc?
if you want to fight in the ufc you have to train like its a full time job. At your age training 3 or 4 times a week would be the best 5 maybe but that's pushing it. Most adults don't train any more than that. Good to see you have great ambition just finish school first so you have a back up plan :D
my son is 12 and trains 5-6 days a week, sometimes more than 1 class a day, and works out with body weight 3-4 times a week.
he loves training all the time, he even trains when we are out of town and he is always drilling on me at home.
he wants to be a pro fighter when he grows up and i support him 110%, his training takes alot of my time and money but i am happy to do it.
Semi related semi interesting video.
There is no set schedule.. you just have to work hard and want it bad enough. You obviously can't do it like a full time job.. no pro athlete in middle school or high school trained like that. I say treat it like any other sport.. practice 6 days a week 2-3 hours and work on your free time on your skills as well. But as I said earlier.. especially with mma which won't be as "structured"(classes all day long etc..) you need to find what schedule works for you and stick too it..
The extra hours of work you do in your free time outside of practice to improve yourself is usually the most beneficial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7WUHVA9lqE
I saw the thread title and thought I could lend my expertise but they would not apply here. Or maybe they would I have always found a rolled up news paper to the end of the nose the best way to train a teenager.
emir listen to ron mate his boy is no joke also hit conner the machine up as well i love seening all the young pups come up if only i was as driven at young age man if only
Sounds like you're living your life through said teenager. If my sister and I wanted to play sports we had to commit completely ourselves and they would support us by providing transportation etc.. Best example would be using my sister who had figure skating practice at 5am every day before school. If she wanted to go she had to wake up at 4:30 and wake up my dad.. if she didn't then she isn't going to be going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brown
My biggest fear when I'm older is that I'll possibly live my life through my children. Its a fine line.. but imo should never be crossed.
Okay that made absolutely no sense but thanks for playing.
As a coach to youth jj players and youth wrestlers, don't follow this. 2 to 3 days a week is enough, even if he/she wants to do more. Its important not forget he/she is still a kid and needs to do kid things. I've had a couple of my own wrestlers that worked out 6 days a week get burned out by the time they hit high school and never wrestled again. Some had a lot of talent and could have done well even into college. Not mention injuries at a young age from over doing it can last a lifetime. If mma in the ufc is the goal hold them back alittle and then when the time comes they will be ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pourya Samari
Hit the nail on the head. I started wrestling at eight years old and had so many injuries and was burnt by highschool. Overtraining may be worse for kids than not training enough. Kids are still growing physically and mentally and need kid time and there growing bodies are not designed to handle the work load of full time training. If they need that mma/jiu jitsu fix get them every book, dvd, or whatever on technique and have them try to get there fix that way. When I was full time fight training we training 3 hours mid morning and 3 hours in the evening. 6 hours a day 5 days a week is way to much for a growing kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Yockel
i dont agree with scott and josh, my son had his worse injury to date playing basketball.
most of his friends are at the gym, he plays there.
he also plays at home with other kids, but these kids he dont like to play with as much because they have different likes.
the gracies, tiger woods, michael jorden, etc, the best of the best have been doing their sport everyday their entire life, their sport is their kid time, their sport is part of their lifestyle.
my son likes training at a gym that offers different types of classes, rather than just bbj or muay thai, that way he can mix it up himself for change of pace. when he is at the gym he might be working with a kid in bjj class and then they decide to ask their parents if they can stay for another class of muay thai or something. also his gym has a play area, trampoline and xbox so the kids love it there.
Ron, agree with the path you and your son are taking and wish him all the luck in the future. My statement was just a general guid line, I realize everyone is different. The point I was trying to get at was for an even mix of "kid time" and training. If your son can do both at the gym with other kids he trains with more power to him. I'll even say i'm jealous that your son has the head start that I didn't. Hope to some video's of you guys soon!!
thanks scott,
his facebook and webpage has videos (see my sig)
also i have a video of him rolling with eddie i will put up sometime soon.
what is also funny is i used to own a bjj school when my son was born and i took him to the school and sat him in his baby carrier on the edge of the mats. so he thinks thats why he is good and likes it so much because he was watching it when he was a baby. kind of like helio gracie who sat and watched for years.
what is also very important is the support he gets from you guys on the board, 10th planet riverside, eddie himself, wand fight team, his friends, fans and sponsors. he is living his dream on a small scale, on a daily basis...
everyone show your support for him and any other up and coming kids, by visiting their webpages and commenting etc. the kids need that kind of support.
thanks again
+1 and its important to understand Scott is also referring to the "average kid/general populous", there will always be exceptions to the rule, Scott has at least one such teen in his program now. However he does it all on his own, hes never forced to train or compete, the kid just engulfs it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Yockel
Hmm.. I don't see how 6 days a week could be overkill especially for a growing kid with absurd amounts of energy etc.. Iono growing up in Austin(maybe different elsewhere?) the majority of sports went 5-6 days a week with Sunday for recovery etc(from 6th-12th grade for sure).. and I say majority because the only common sport that didn't was hockey.. we only practiced a few times a week but that was more because of logistics. Most people I knew did several sports as well. But I wasn't trying to say he should do that.. thats why I started and ended by saying its important that he finds what schedule works for him.
edit: dave might have misunderstood you it was 3am I was taking a hw break. Sounded like you were saying thats how you get your kid to practice etc.. but maybe you're saying thats the best way to coach them cause they never listen and what not :P
scott: just saw the general guideline thing
i dont think i will get "burned out"...chael sonnen has trained evreyday of his life since he was like 12 lol..atleast thats what he says
I train 7 days a week , 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 hrs a days andi am a 15yr old girl. I train at 2 diffenret martial arts schools (one for kenpo one for JJ/MT). I am ranked in both martial arts and enjoy it. the guys at them gym/school are like my second family and really sipport me and all want to be there when get my first fight. I actualy clean the gym 2-3x a week, mop, vacum, startighten pads, garbage..i also compete in karate tournaments & submission tournaments as much as possible (i have 3 this month)..And i enjoy every minute of it, some of my friends at school have said i am to dedictaed, but like gina carano said "if your goign to have a hobby, it might as well be punching someone in the face" -
i was thinking....during winter
Monday-1 hour of muay thai, 1 hour and 30 minutes oj jiu jitsu no gi
tuesday-2 hours of wrestiling, 1 hour of jiu jitsu no gi
wednsday-2 hours of wrestiling, 1 hour of muay thai, 1 hour and 30 minutes of jiu jitsu no gi
thursday-wrestiling meet (wrestiling macth/s)
friday-2 hours of wrestiling, 1 hour of jiujitsu gi
saturday-45 minutes of muay thai, 45 minutes of jiu jitsu no gi
sunday-1 hour of muay thai
evrey other season is a little different because i wont have wrestiling but i will have a little more jiu jitsu and muay thai and mma overall and i will be in all kinds off wrestiling camps in the wrestiling off season
what do u guys think of that scheduel^^
Exactly......thats what he says. what does is different. I didn't think I would ever get burned out after my last mma fight but I did and havent been back in the cage since (1 1/2 yrs). Now with some time off here and their I'm ready to jump back into things this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emir Mehovic
i think the most important thing is support...
my son gets excited for a new fb fan or a new comment on his website or when his sponsor gives him something unexpected etc. and i drop everything to help him.
the littlest things keep this kid going.
personally i think you dont get burned out of something you love. so it depends on the reason for doing it, if you are taking bjj for recreation yeh you will get burned out, but if you are doing it because you love it and you would do it even if you never thought about being a champion then i dont think you burn out.
man how do u get sponsers?lol
Depends on your definition of burned out.. if by that you mean how much you enjoy what you're doing then sure. But if you mean physically well then you can't just power through everything without your body failing. Your recovery time is what dictates what you do in the end. When you're younger its generally faster though.. as long as you put some solid food down. "If you want to beat a man you have to out eat the man" :P
I have a 9 month old son and I will be wrestling with him as soon as he starts toddling around and I will be taking him to the gym with me when I go, but when it comes time for him to begin learning in a class setting I will start him off going at least once a week. By the time he is 13 I believe there is no reason he couldn't be going 5 days a week. There has to be some support and a little push from me, but if assuming it is what he enjoys he will want to be there that often. I know that I did with wrestling, but if its not there will be a lack of motivation and I am hoping that I can recognize that.
I believe that if you are motivated you have to start training hard especially at your age when real competition is starting. You need to compete and begin to grow a strong mental focus on the task at hand and your goals. You go into any wrestling tournament and at 13 those kids are determined are striving to be the best, and a lot of their parents push them to become the best they can be.
train, compete, win, thats my sons job, i talk to companies and do all the web marketing for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Emir Mehovic
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Originally Posted by Pourya Samari
Had to read that last line a couple of times. Thought that was a Matt Horwich Fighting System thing for a minute there...
There is no perfect formula to build a fighter. Thats what makes the great one's so special. Everyone is different. So don't think hours in the gym, 6 days a week will insure stardom. The biggest thing that can't be trained is heart. Thats what you should fallow when setting up your training schedule. It will tell you when to push harder or when to back off. If you have a fighters heart it will tell you right. I don't train 6 or 7 days a week. Master Eddie told me a long time ago, take time for other things you love, and it will make your fight game stronger. I think he's right. I snowboard, I play football and lacrosse, play drums and guitar and so many other things. But when I train it's balls to the wall.
I think to many people have got hung up on the GSP mold. Don't get me wrong, I love GSP, But sometimes I think he has hurt some of the guys that want to train. They see this super athlete, good at everything he does and think I could never be that great. So they never try, that sucks. I think you need to start with heart and soul, than build the fighter around that. Not find the best athlete on the planet and teach him to fight. Without heart and soul they will get smashed everytime. Thats why this fat little white kid thinks he has what it takes to be great.lol.
I think the best thing that happened this year on TUF was Jean Charles. Does he look like the perfect athlete....no. Does he train everyday of the week......no. Is he a fighter.....oh yah !!!!! He's a badass !!!!! Check out some of his fights on youtube. GSP said himself, Charles has a fighters spirt. If you cross him, don't let his looks fool you. your taking a beating. Insult to injury, he may do it drunk.lol. He started with the heart and soul of a fighter.....most important!!!
There is no book to follow, us young guys have to find our own path. Surround yourself with the best coach's you can find. Hope that your parents are supportive. Go after your dreams, don't let anyone stand in your way.
The only thing I can add that I have went thru myself, is the closest thing to a test of heart. I did it when I started boxing. I was 8 and traveled 2 hours to work with a boxing gym that had a bunch of street kids that trained there. We did a round robin sparring , with no breaks. Started with kids around my size and age, but as I won rounds I stayed in and they kept getting older and bigger kids to put me against. Finally ended up with a 13 year old. He smashed me from corner to corner. Nose bleeding, lip bleeding. He kicked my ass.lol. Bell rang and we kept throwing punch's.Lol. The owner of the gym (an ex pro fighter) came to me and said, You came in here a boxer.....you leave a fighter. I can't teach you getting up and keep going after someone you know you can't beat. Keep training, thats the spirt it takes to be great.
So I don't know how some guys will feel about this, but I think anyone who wants to do this and be great, has to walk thru that same fire in some kinda way. You need some kinda of full contact training other than jiu jitsu, to know if you have what it takes. Looking great on a bag is one thing. How will you hold up when that bag throws back, looking to take your head off. You don't want to train with no contact for 6 years giving blood sweat and tears only to find out the first time you get popped, its not for you.
Sorry I went on so long, I know it bugs some of you guys. But it's better than being on the xbox.LOL
I train 7 days a week because i have so much fun with people at my gym or karate school then just hanging out at the mall or doing nothing..its like my second family and when you train with friends its doesnt feel like work :) ..plus i dont have a video game console :)