Suffered My First Real Injury Today

Was rolling with 18 year old who was going balls to the wall. Felt something weird in my left ripcage about 2 min in. But kid was being such a ducie boy, I didn't want to tap. Went for about 10 minutes until I swept and got to the back. RNC as hard as I could. He tucked his chin and wouldn't tap. I had it locked up and he was whimpering bad. I told him, swallow your pride and tap because you can break a jaw this way. He did.LOL.

But joke was on me. I went to get up and I couldn't. Couldn't take a deep breath, couldn't raise my left arm above my head. Never felt that kinda pain.

I stretched all the cartalidge and ligaments that hold your ribs togeather on the left side. Nothing can be done but rap it tight and give it time to heal. Sucks !!!!! Got Naga at end of month. First one starting new year. Everyone tells me it takes a long time to heal......... All because some 175 pound 18 year old bone head thought he was fighting for the UFC title, or maybe because I was just as stupid and didn't stop when i first felt something go wrong. But NNNOOOOOO ! I had to show him who was boss, that worked out really well.

I picked up a new gun last night and I hurt to much to fire it..... Sucks.

That sucks Machine. Looks like you learned from it though. Rest it up good. You don't want to be out any longer than you have to.

Hope u get better soon...but does this mean your not going to naga??????? I WANT MY REMACTH hahaha

Rib injuries suck. When you think it's healed, give it another month. I had a similar injury and after about 6 weeks i felt back to normal until I got slammed on my side. The injury was there, like it never left.

I've had that injury, it blows and takes a while. My left lower rib sticks out at least a half inch from healing crappy
Doesn't hurt now but looks funny

Same here, upper left ribcage getting stacked by a wrestler. Felt the pain all the way into my neck and couldn't look to the right with severe stabbing pain. Took me completely out for a good 2 and half months.

can you cough hard without being in pain?
if so you might have a fracture( not as serious as it sounds)
but the recovery time is EPIC
it took me 2 months!

get well soon connor!

that sucks man. your opponent shouldn't have been going that hard but at the same time, you should've swallowed your pride and just stopped rolling with him. I'm always the smallest guy at the gym and I'm right there where you were, everyday. If a guy is going 100% and he's bigger than me, I'll just avoid him from ever rolling with me again. or you can be really annoying and just tap every 2 seconds before he gets something going hah

Sorry to hear that bud. That sucks. I've broken my ribs twice and yeah, it takes a LONG time to heal up. Cartilage damage and small rib fractures feel the same and you can do just about as much for them -- nothing. The two biggest risks from rib injuries are pneumonia (regardless of the injury) and a punctured lung (from a small break turning into a big break from, oh I dunno, rolling with a giant 18 year-old. ;) ). An X-ray isn't a bad idea just to rule out a break. If there's no break you can just take it easy and in a couple of weeks you'll be back to at least technique classes. If it's a break, you don't want to risk it breaking further or not healing properly and you'll have to stay out a lot longer. Take care kiddo and remember that you've got nothing to prove. Your record stands on its own. :)

Already had it checked. No breaks, just soft tissue they said. But Sometimes hurts longer than a break, i was told. Not the way i wanted to start the new year. But injuries are part of the game. I will do my best to get it to heal fast. No matter what I will fight at Naga at end of the month, So don't worry Emir, you will get your rematch.lol.

I know it sounds stupid of me to get into ego rolls with older guys, but I really don't have much choice. I kinda have a target on my back all the time at class. Not by any of the REAL jiu jitsu guys, they are all my bro's. All the newbie's. You know the ones that come in thinking there tough guys because they watch ufc and and practice basement jits with all there friends.lol. I don't get it. I don't see how beating me really would mean a whole lot to these guys. It's like me walking into our kids class and pounding our best 8 year old. Not really a huge ego booster to me. Whatever, I'll keep following the rule of gym justice. Go as hard as you want someone to go on you. I can't avoid them, I need matt time to get better. These guys that go all Ralphie on me just make me stronger.lol.

what exactly did you get injured by?

I think I did it working out of his mount. He was using every bit of strength he had. I worked back to half guard. I was working between Half guard and lock down, pulling him down and stretching him out. I got my head under his arm pit and threw a leg around his back. Kept working little by little, to get to his back. Think thats when it happend. Alot of twisting and torging going on doing that exchange. Pretty sure thats when I did it.

Rest it, and heal up, and please dont't push it. After 26 years I have tons of old injuries that constantly aggravate me (I originally injured my bad knee when I was 10 years old and it has been fucked ever since), I wish I had the types of coaches (back in the day) that actually knew about sports medicine and physiology and the proper way to recover and train around an injury Let it heal before you make it something that will aggravate you for a life time. You've got alot of growing yet to do, don't push it. It sucks to be stagnant, nothing frustrated me more than not being able to train and roll, I just started training light again last week after being off the mats for 6 weeks with a torn abdominal, and I'm a miserable prick when I can't roll, so I understand you pain. You have a lifetime ahead of you, take it easy now or you will regret in down the line.

i thought that he was applying pressure to your ribs with like a bear hug for example but it sounds like you rotated your torso past its limits.
the problem i have to deal with against bigger guys is when they have an unnatural headlock. they're similar in that they rarely make me want to tap even when i know that i'm in the process of developing an injury that will last for a week.

a month or 2 ago i rolled with a new guy with big arms and he jumped into a headlock and was applying tremendous pressure around my skull, it took ages to get out. by the time i escaped and arm-barred him, i realized that my right ear was completely numb all over. it took about 3 days to start healing. then i decided to come to training again and rolled against the more experienced guy with a killer headlock and he eventually stuck me in the exact same position i was in 3 days ago, except this time my ear felt even worse afterwards and took about 2 weeks to heal.

the thing that i can say that i learnt from the ordeal is that i needed to get better at tearing headlocks apart. the better you are at breaking apart painful positions, the less chance there is of developing such injuries

I hope you heal up in time for Naga. GOod luck

Be careful bud you want a long career of bjj, don't over train.

Put some tussin on it :)

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Put some tussin on it :)

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^^THIS lol

Ok I think I missed something. First off I didn't know what tussin was, I had to look it up.lol. Not sure how cough syrup will help with this. So that makes me think I am missing a joke. Could someone fill me in. I like to think of myself as a smart kid, hate it when something goes over my head, but I think something did this time.LOL.

So while trying to teach the kid some humility in tapping, your may have further injured yourself to prove a point? Looks like the lesson is for you Conner. Some times you have to shut the MACHINE down early for maintenance.
Ego comes in many forms, but your young, and I am sure you will take something from it.
Heal up, drink some 7up

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Originally Posted by Conner MACHINE Gibbons

Ok I think I missed something. First off I didn't know what tussin was, I had to look it up.lol. Not sure how cough syrup will help with this. So that makes me think I am missing a joke. Could someone fill me in. I like to think of myself as a smart kid, hate it when something goes over my head, but I think something did this time.LOL.

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The "more tussin" reference Eddie used is from a bit Chris Rock did during one of his HBO, Stand-Up comedy performance. Rock was referring to how poor his family was growing up, so no matter what was wrong with him or his siblings, their Father would give them "Tussin" "Oh you broke your arm?" "Put some Tussin on it"...or something to that effect.

Thanks djradoff....

Got it. I'm glad I asked. At least I was smart enough to pick up on there being a joke someplace. That would have been a sticky mess if I had taken his advice.LOL. Can't say i didn't think about it for a second......Thought it was secret treatment that only jiu jitsu guys knew about. Maybe it worked like tiger balm. LOL.

I was raised different my brother and I were always instructed to either walk it off or rub some dirty on it. Sadly neither has worked very well for VD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd-EBG3a7jU

Thanks Eddie, I looked it up when djradoff gave me the low down. LOL. Funny thing while searching Youtube for Chris Rock stand up, I found this one about tossing a saled...................... I am disturbed to say the least. LOL.

There is one thing I'm sure of now. I will never eat grape jelly again, and I'm never going to jail.

I call this cauliflower rib. Had it several times. Like said, most rib injuries aren't the ribs themselves. Its the cartilage ripping and tearing either itself or away from the bone. If you ignore it, it will keep poppin out and swell with blood and fluid which will eventually calcify just like ears. It sticks out ruining the silhouette of my phenomenal abs(not completely). And the more calcified cartilage, the less flexible the rib cage then more injuries. Further blemishing my six pack.

So the moral of this story is be nice to your core. Its in the middle

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Originally Posted by Conner MACHINE Gibbons

Not sure how cough syrup will help with this.

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No joke, it could help a lot should you experience the further misfortune of catching a bad cold that makes you cough.

Coughing and sneezing can cause a lot of pain when one is trying to heal up from that kind of injury. I suffered a costochondral separation one time, and I thought I was going to die from the pain every time I sneezed.

All good now, My coach's and dad are like brain surgens when it comes to gym medicine. Kept it rapped, soaked in tiger balm, stretching excercise's, took a few days off. Feels great now. Little pull on hard rolling, not bad at all.

Ready to compete at Naga on the 30th.

more importantly... what kind of gun did you get???

Conner they changed up the weight divisions at naga...we might not get to grapple eachother again..so how much do u weigh???

12 years old, 5 foot 7, 153 pounds of all man baby !!!!!!! LOL.

Should be about 143 by day of tournament.

I've had both soft tissue and bone injuries to the ribcage, and both are horrible. I tore an abdominal once during a demonstration and yelled fucking murder in front of a crowd of gawking people.

I have a torn ab now. Worse than ribs.

The only thing that is at all concerning about rib injuries is; is it a costal cartilage injury? Costal cartilage is what connects your ribs to your breast bone, and to your vertebrae. Barring this kind of injury, you should be fine, outside of the pain. Good things about this kind of injury: very small chance of any long-term damage, debilitation tends to rely on pain tolerance, and it tends to heal relatively completely (again, barring a costal cartilage injury), simply due to the structure of the rib cage itself. Bad things about this injury: it can take a long time to heal completely (I've heard of particularly nasty soft tissue rib injuries take up to 3 months to heal), it's difficult to treat (simply not much you can do, other than take it easy on yourself and let it heal), and it's fairly easy to re-injure (especially when you use it, i.e. applying pressure with in whilst in side control, back mount, etc. then the guy bucks right into your ribs. OUCH!).

My advice: try to compete, but if it hurts too bad, then don't. Pretty simple. You'll know whether or not you can go. If it's not healed up enough, there's just no way your body will let you compete, there will be too much pain.

conner, your gonna drop 10 pounds in 5 days? lol

My advice is to take a break and scour the internet and books and dvds and your instructors for techniques to sharpen your game for when you get back on the mat. Ryan Hall's game changed for the better when he got injured because he took the time to reflect on what he was doing wrong and what got him injured in the first place. I know he's not on 10th Planet's favorite person's list, but he knows how to improve that's for sure. :) Good luck buddy.

conner...sunday should be interesting haha

Emir first off I boxed for 4 years, I can cut 10 pounds in 1 day if I need to. But I'm not cutting anymore. Havn't in almost a year, I want to get big.....really big.LOL.

I have been off a few days healing so packed on a few pounds, But back training.........Just got home, 3 hours a night. already at
146.

And as far as Sunday...... Its always interesting when I fight. LOL.

Off to bed, Need to get my rest so I can bring my A game Sunday. Looking forward to the first tourny of 2011, plan to have a bigger season than 2010. More wins, More taps, more people that will know THE MACHINE is more than a sweadish supermodel pretty face.LOL.

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Originally Posted by Conner MACHINE Gibbons

Emir first off I boxed for 4 years, I can cut 10 pounds in 1 day if I need to. But I'm not cutting anymore. Havn't in almost a year, I want to get big.....really big.LOL.

I have been off a few days healing so packed on a few pounds, But back training.........Just got home, 3 hours a night. already at
146.

And as far as Sunday...... Its always interesting when I fight. LOL.

Off to bed, Need to get my rest so I can bring my A game Sunday. Looking forward to the first tourny of 2011, plan to have a bigger season than 2010. More wins, More taps, more people that will know THE MACHINE is more than a sweadish supermodel pretty face.LOL.

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Thumbs up!!!