I don't like where I'm at.

10th planet lynchburg va has been defunct for a month now and it's finally hit me. The withdrawal, I don't like the fucking gi I have to wear now, Not a fan of the baby pace of the class, and it's 45min, long. I need my mat time, I'm surrounded by fanboys, who don't care to compete, save 3 dudes, and these guys unless a fight or comp is coming up, they don't free roll. wtf? all my 10 p fam/affiliates expect visits from me . I can't let this place fuck my game up. Oh I haven't been tapped since I started at this new spot, no ones come close, gi and no-gi.

I guess I'm asking for advice but really venting, I caught myself waking up this morning to put on my 10p rashguard.

How far is the Morgantown, WV 10th Planet from you?

4hrs and i stay in contact w/ Neale. just need to gt money right before i go up there for a couple days.

That sucks brother. Who is the guy that runs that place? Is he any good? I feel your frustration when it comes to not being able to train where you want to. Oh and no roll time. WTF!

The guy is traditional karate and legit krav maga, and leastly a machado affiliate (why i choose this place) every thing else is gracie,
he's a joke in my opinion, he doesn't roll, I have the up most confidence that i would make him feel like a bitch on the mat. i mean i've dominated all in his class no matter the rank, and still he don't roll, wouldn't ya'll think he would school my white belt ass to show the rest that the tech is sound and they aren't wasting their money, cuz he failed at that shit with me lol i look at it as i'm paying for 6-12 grappling dummies and i rep 10th p tech when i'm there so whatever

Start buying your own mats. Turn your friends into 10p.

i know this is gonna make alot of ya'll go well what do you want from us but me and another guy from 10thp lynchburg have mats and a thai bag in his basement. sorry like i said it was a vent thread but all of ya'lls advice are making me feel like I'm doing all I can thanks. And I hve loose plans for a grappling comp. so be on the look out if you're in the mid atlantis southest region. And Thanks again

mid atlantic

im not a big fan of the gi either just because it is so damn hot. i hate being smothered. however im going to buy one soon and start wearing it once a week. I hear you about not having a good school. it took me forever to find some good schools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bCc0EGP6U

That sucks bad. Jits comes from the show me state. If that guy doesn't roll he isn't legit. I hope you are not stuck in a contract.?.?.....

I go to a non competing school too. No one to roll with my size either. I'm #225 and I roll w/guys who are #160. It's all about the Gi here,no rolling during class. Open mat 2x per week. I'm thinking about a different place,I don't "fit" here...

Not trying to steal your thread man,I just know what you mean. Gi sucks...

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Originally Posted by WilliamGunter

The guy is traditional karate and legit krav maga, and leastly a machado affiliate (why i choose this place) every thing else is gracie,
he's a joke in my opinion, he doesn't roll, I have the up most confidence that i would make him feel like a bitch on the mat. i mean i've dominated all in his class no matter the rank, and still he don't roll, wouldn't ya'll think he would school my white belt ass to show the rest that the tech is sound and they aren't wasting their money, cuz he failed at that shit with me lol i look at it as i'm paying for 6-12 grappling dummies and i rep 10th p tech when i'm there so whatever

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you sound like a legit douche.

what happened to the lynchburg school? who was the instructor? i guess i missed the news on that one.

I would try a test run at the Gracie school. I'd rather train in a familiar class structure even if it's not your ideal curriculum.

Why did you go there in the first place. I thought i Knew of a decent place in lynchburg (Ren something) but I could have the name wrong, and could be where you are. Did you actually do a test class at all the places to train?

If the instructor isnt grappling, its a red flag IMO.

what happened to 10th planet lynchburg???

stnl: it's called ram and they own you, 3 yr contract to roll no gi, I am stuck in a contract. and I'm known all over as the trial class guy.lol cuz when i had no job thats how i trained. i know all the gyms in lynchburg and this place is the only one affordable. and the dues are still keeping me broke. I went there cuz my 10thp closed. Thanks again for the input.

!0thp lynchburg closed due to lack of students, pretty much.

That's terrible man. You should get a copy of your contract and see what the clauses are to get out of it. You could potentially fake a move across country or something of the sort. My school rolls everyday and you can definitely tell the difference in competition, it really seems like others aren't ready for us. If all else fails, attempt to diplomatically convince your instructor to allow rolling time as it is really the only way to truly test the technique. Also roll with your friends man, spend time teaching them what you know and then roll them to get mat time. If theres a will theres a way bro, talk to Bobby Rivers. He virtually made me and then we went to the MMA school here for extra training partners and to refine technique. Also...just because you like 10th Planet doesn't mean you can't like Gracie as well. It seems as though that was your best option, all money aside.

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Originally Posted by WilliamGunter

stnl: it's called ram and they own you, 3 yr contract to roll no gi, I am stuck in a contract. and I'm known all over as the trial class guy.lol cuz when i had no job thats how i trained. i know all the gyms in lynchburg and this place is the only one affordable. and the dues are still keeping me broke. I went there cuz my 10thp closed. Thanks again for the input.

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You signed a 3year contract? Or the place you dont want to go has 3 year contracts? Also, out of curiousity, where is the guy who was running your old spot? Maybe he will do some garage trainging or the like?

ram wants a 3 yr contract to roll no gi, Neale of course runs 10thp morgantown, which as soon as money is straight ill be up there for a couple of days. no fuck a 3yr anything i'm 25. lol

A three year contact is crazy.............

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Originally Posted by WilliamGunter

!0thp lynchburg closed due to lack of students, pretty much.

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hey will, I wanted to say that Neale had to close lynchburg for some very personal reasons out side of the school closing. He left his original school and went into a town where he was unknown and that was already full of other gyms. he chose a beautiful location and paid higher than normal rent as to set a standard that is tpjj. he struggled with his decision and he and I spoke hours about how hard it was for him to have to make the decision to close and return to morgantown. And I can tell you without a doubt that leaving you behind was one of the hardest things he had to do. He truly enjoyed having you as a student and I can completely understand your frustration on this matter because his telling me his plans made my plans that much more harder to acheive, as you well know, I was trying to train there as often as money would allow. I'm sure you understand all of this and I didnt have to tell you, but I wanted others unaware of the situation not to draw the wrong conclusions. I am really glad that I got to know you and hope to see you again someday. stay true and train hard....

frank-kneebar-james lol (inside joke)

always

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Originally Posted by Scott Philips

Start buying your own mats. Turn your friends into 10p.

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precisely. i love my gym i train 4 nights a week. but even still i either go to the games center or public gym, and roll with some friends/training partners whenever i can. i really try to overkill it, get as much practice in as i can, and stretch when im not working out, and watch instructionals when i stretch, and daydream about techniques when im watching videos, and so forth lol. anyways do what u can, even if its just with a friend in his basement. if hes WILLING to roll with u, its probly more benificial than the school ur in, no offense to anyone.

Just to get this straight; you're the new guy there at the gym, you smash everyone there and you're already challenging the instructor? Wow, sounds like you're really repping 10th planet greatly. Ever hear of positional free rolling, maybe working out of things so you can learn new moves and escapes and give the other guy opportunity to work? Sounds to me like you're being a
douche bag tough guy.

I never challenged my instructor sir, I smash respectfully, I've never been to a gym where the instructor didn't roll. Sorry you're reading this wrong, it's more of a comparision of coming from a 10thp school to being a ronin again. and being disappointed of my peers progression. and me being a baby about it. I need a challenge to progress. now at the time of this post I can tell you alot of my fellow students are ,gettin way more aggressive. and I'm enjoying it way more thanks for asking Mr.Kipness. Saying that it sounds like i'm being a douche bag tough guy is rather disrespectful, and isn't very positive critizicism, and not a great way to conduct a dialog on the 10thp forum after the whole "the man" dibacal we need to step back and think before we type. thanks for your input.

No offense sir, but that is what it was sounding like to me. The way you worded it, to me you came across as a douche bag and whining because your instructor didn't want to roll with you. Not every instructor can be Marcelo Garcia and roll with everyone. Some instructors are great at teaching and suck at actual rolling. Their technique is flawless while instructing and he has the knowledge of 10 black belts but maybe it never clicked for him while rolling. Perhaps that is his dilemma. You can see that right?

I could give two shits about the "the man" debacle you are talking about. I'm no where near that guy and for you to even compare me to him is asinine and a real dick move. I'm not trying to pretend i'm a rank i'm not, nor am I trying to be tough and challenge you to a street fight. :D I'm probably the most humblest guy you'll ever meet in person.

Keyboards don't convey emotion very well.

Just start traveling to all of the gyms in your area and go to the open mats. You'll find a place where people will take off their Gay...ooops I mean Gi tops and roll. Then you will have an in to finding if they roll regularly with out the jammies.

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No offense sir, but that is what it was sounding like to me. The way you worded it, to me you came across as a douche bag and whining because your instructor didn't want to roll with you. Not every instructor can be Marcelo Garcia and roll with everyone. Some instructors are great at teaching and suck at actual rolling. Their technique is flawless while instructing and he has the knowledge of 10 black belts but maybe it never clicked for him while rolling. Perhaps that is his dilemma. You can see that right?

I could give two shits about the "the man" debacle you are talking about. I'm no where near that guy and for you to even compare me to him is asinine and a real dick move. I'm not trying to pretend i'm a rank i'm not, nor am I trying to be tough and challenge you to a street fight. :D I'm probably the most humblest guy you'll ever meet in person.

Keyboards don't convey emotion very well.

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I have never seen an instructor at a grappling school gym who could teach but couldnt do the things he was teaching in live grappling. Never seen a guy who wouldnt roll with the students either. But that is just my persona experience from a good, long time being around submission grappling/BJJ.