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I just watched the Nobuhiko Takada/Coleman fight and got to thinking... how many fights in PRIDE do you think have been fixed? What if it's a LOT more than we think? And what if the same thing happens in UFC and other large organizations?
This really bother me. What do you guys think?
The yakuza worked a lot behind the scenes in pride and seeing as I don't think the mafia is behind the Ufc I don't really think there are many if any fixed fights.
The possibility is most certainly there. I hope Dana wouldn't do that, we don't need another WWE.
How is mafia not behind UFC? Heloooo Fertita brothers, you don't get to own casinos and wroth about 3 bill among 2 brothers by carefully managing your 401K investments.
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Originally Posted by AndyK5
I don't believe the UFC organization would ever fix a fight! It would be company suicide if ever found out. But there is always a threat of this with outside individuals and fighters!
I am 99.9% sure Dana doesnt fix fights. Just for the simple fact that if you watch these guys... I dont know a lot of guys who are going to let someone land a huge knee to their face without blocking out of if nothing else, instinct. Its really hard to throw a fight when losing is so costly. There's no way i would let cro-cop kick me in the head for any amount of money the way i have seen him kick some of those guys. and when you see fighters doing everything perfectly to avoid getting beat.. i just feel that if you are knowledgeable in the sport.. you would be able to tell when someone just stops using technique in order to lose. But i dont really think ive yet to see a fight end where i thought "man, he looked like he let him beat him there", where as in boxing, ive definitely seen those kind of matches. Its just too hard for a human to allow himself to get knocked out on purpose and play it off like he didnt know it was coming. But that doesnt mean i dont think dana has put people up against specific styles just to make sure they lose. (look at james toney vs Randy). Even though i know randy asked for the fight. i bet there were a lot of fighters who wanted that one, but randy was perfect for a sure win against a boxer with 0 wrestling/grappling ability.
I thought some of the UFC decisions were kind of shady. Most recently, Rampage/Machida and nam phans most recent fight. And remember after Machida's loss how Dana white said "I'd rather keep a guy who lost a dogfight than keep a guy who ran around in circles for 3 rounds and wins".
2 million, maybe less but I would definitely let Cro-Cop kick me in the head for 2 million! Not like hands down stand in front of him and let him just unload with everything he's got. It would be more like I'm going to move around avoid it as long as possible and he can just keep launching them until he connects.
I think if Dana fixed fights, Chuck would still be champ. j/k
Fight fixing does not work like the stuff you see in movies where people get offered a wad of cash in the locker room before the fight and 2 bouncers with baseball bats are waiting for you outside if you don't take a dive etc.. These guys are professionals and if they are fixing anything, than they are doing it the proper way.
There is no real ranking system in the UFC. There are no rules that govern who gets a title shot or who gets to fight who. It all gets decided by the Zuffa boys. So they can take an outsider and throw him to the wolfs, throw him in to fights that he can not win and spit him right out. They can also take fighters and slowly build them, give them easier fights to build their undefeated record until they are ready to challenge the top 5 in the division.
Except the totally obvious title fights, it is all a crap shoot basically. As long as White+Fertita+Silva decide on who fights who, then there is always some fixing going on. If you want a totally unfixed way of arranging fights, then you need to go to league system where everybody fights the same number of fights and each other, couple times per season, one at home and one away.