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Main Card:
- Frankie Edgar $96,000 (includes $48,000 win bonus) def. B.J. Penn $150,000
- Randy Couture $250,000 def. James Toney $500,000
- Demian Maia $68,000 def. Mario Miranda $8,000
- Gray Maynard $46,000 (includes $23,000 win bonus) def. Kenny Florian $65,000
- Nate Diaz $60,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus) def. Marcus Davis $31,000
Plus the $60,000 fight-night bonuses:
- Fight of the Night: Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis
- Submission of the Night: Joe Lauzon
That makes me sick.
James Toney will never see an mma payday like that again he better go back to boxing.
Terrible precedent set by the UFC
I'm jealous. half the time I can't even afford a sandwich.
How many viewers did they pull in?
That a fat man can walk into that Octagon, get destroyed and still walk away with that much more money than guys that train like gods.....
Makes me sick too.
I dont think so man, its buisness I bet the paper veiw sales alone were worth it and think of the cross over fan gains paychecks dont always reflect a fighters ability in the ring but there ability to sale ppv's. Its just buisness. Moves like that are what brought the ufc out of the dirt and allow hard core fans to see the better fights sometimes put on on the under card.Quote:
Originally Posted by JiuClaw
I agree with Jonathan. But it's too bad that in this case, business isn't fair. I am glad that some of these guys make more in a night than I do in a year of programming.
Watch the first part of the post fight presser, the UFC is growing faster every day, and its things like this that are the cause.
You can watch the whole thing on UFC.com
It does suck but it keeps the sport alive the fact is those of us who apprieciate the finer points of the sport are out numbered by the dumb drunks wearing tap out shirts and geting there shorts pulled down in Wataburger! We have to deal with some of this crap to keep the sport thriving
Fighters are worth their draw, not their skill. Basic economics.
I sort of thought the UFC had grown beyond this sort of stuff. MMA has, you can see that in how the fight panned out.
If this were the WWE I would agree, but this is a sport. Just like any other sport, the athlete's compensation should be DIRECTLY proportional to their SKILL. That's just my opinion, i guess for the "growth of the sport" you could argue that entertainment value is important, but I disagree. If skill is valued over entertainment value the sport will grow the way it should. Luckily I think this was a rare, one time thing, but if self proclaimed "freak shows" that get paid twice as much as every other fighter on the card start to become more prevalent, then I fear the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
Start scouring the country for giants, Pride style.
Its like bringing a cricket team from India, complete with cricket bats and sticking them in your baseball series. Indians will watch, and you will introduce baseball to Indias millions. Big $$$. Except it will never happen because its a sport, not a circus.
Just seems like going backwards in a big way.
It was by all appearances another Brock Lesnar thing, except James Tony is an idiot and didnt take it seriously like Brock did, and it showed.
guys randy gets payed on PPV buys, so he might have gotten 250,000 up front but he took home some where in the 1mil range so he still ended up with way more then the joke that is james toney
like I said this sport is still young and not yet driven monetarily by hardcore fans like us beleive it or not we are still the minortity the success of this sport still relies on beer guzzeling meat heads wearing tap out shirts whether we like it or not as time goes on that ballace is slowly shifting and eventually these kind of money draws will no longer be needed but until that day comes we are stuck with this kind of stuff so we might as well enjoy watching dum asses like Tony and Kimbo Slice getting humiliated.
Thats a relief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Martinez
Its the same everywhere. I take my girlfriend to fightnights here and she does her nut every time because people smoke in the venues "there are athletes competing!". Love them or hate them, the liquor soaked meat heads baying for blood keep the sport alive.
this is actially makin' me wounder, even though the UFC is still a growing sport 1 can even wounder was Toney paid 2 take a DIVE eventhough he NEVER EVER really had a chance in the 1st place he could have at lease thrown 1 punch
People still talk that shit about boxing being as good and complete a system as MMA. I don't care if all you train is punches you are going to lose doesn't matter if you hit like Mike Tyson. Its like taking a Bow and Arrow to a modern day war.
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like I said this sport is still young and not yet driven monetarily by hardcore fans like us beleive it or not we are still the minortity the success of this sport still relies on beer guzzeling meat heads wearing tap out shirts whether we like it or not as time goes on that ballace is slowly shifting and eventually these kind of money draws will no longer be needed but until that day comes we are stuck with this kind of stuff so we might as well enjoy watching dum asses like Tony and Kimbo Slice getting humiliated.
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Originally Posted by Ryan Cook
I agree, but I really really really like beer. Can we just leave the beer out of it?
Justin, doubt Toney was paid to take a dive, Toney was making more than this in boxing! Top Boxers have always made top dollar, hell Floyd Mayweather made 22.5 million for his fight against Mosely. IMO mma fighter are extremely underpaid. Here in Georgia alot of pro mma fighters fight anywhere for $300-$1000 to show and that again if they win. This is probably the way it is all throughout the US. So When a fighter gets to the ufc $3000 to show and $3000 to win is standard and the fighter signs the contract thus continuing this low pay. Low pay for mma fighters will continue until the fighters themselves come together and refuse to fight for so little amount.
I guess for me it feels a bit like it did when the UFC gave Brock the title shot ahead of both Mir and Nog. All of my Brock nut-hugger friends at the time were all about it; my feeling was, is, and always will be that he didn't earn that title shot. It was a pure business decision by the UFC and I don't really blame them for it. They're in the business of making money. Brock brings in the PPV sales. That he stepped in to a title shot 2-1 in MMA and 1-1 in the UFC is retarded, but he brought in the money and he took the belt. I never said he wasn't an athlete (and one could argue that in his condition Toney isn't much of an athlete. Great boxer, but not an all-around athlete like Brock), just that the UFC put dollar signs ahead of integrity by skipping over two guys who had more than paid their dues. Seems a little like the same thing here.
you can't have MMA without boxing so boxing wins!
People actually say that? Hell, Iv seen multiple boxers take kickboxing fights and either collapse or have the towel thrown in from leg kicks alone. Every time they tried to close range they got hacked in the leg and there was nothing they could do about it. And thats just kickboxing, not MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Blankenship
yep I here it all the time around here. If your a boxer you automatically are assumed to be a bad ass. It's ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Elliott
Teep, leg kick. Leg kick, leg kick, leg kick. Leg kick, teep. Leg kick, leg kick, leg kick.
If I ever found myself squared up against a boxer FOR SURE i'd be looking for leg kicks. I'm an awful boxer. I'm a grappler with long limbs and a couple of combinations -- all of which end with either a kick or angle-cross-hook. I'm getting my ass kicked against a boxer so boxing stance = leg kick leg kick leg kick, take down, choke, fight's over.
If they do get in, loooong knee.
Then again, theres the completely underrated, Yodsenkalai arm kick. Cant box if your arms broken.
It's pretty sad that more times than not, a pro level boxer could probably be taken down by a highschool level wrestler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Blankenship
Got his money, lost the image. They simply paid him to see his ass get humiliated. I can't see him winning anything here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Valdez
Toney vs Arlovski on a Strikeforce card. That could be interesting.
toney vs kimbo...i wonder what would happend if it went to the ground...lol