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well some kid is threatning me that he's gonna kick my ass haha witch is deffinetly not going to happen lol but if we do end up fighting how different is it from mma should i still use my jab and work him like that or just swing looking for a good punch. Ive never exactly been in a street fight. Any suggestions would be apriceated thank you. Feel free to share your own street fighting experiances.
got my ass destroyed in a streetfight, that's why I started doing muy thai and jitz in the first place.
I got in one more fight after that, it was at a party where I knew almost nobody. Some kid was talking shit and wanted to scrap me and I was gonna do it but my friends convinced me to back down because if I didn't they said the whole party would jump me. So I was walking away then I saw the guy jump on my friend and start hitting him and so I jumped on him and choked him out. I found out later that he wasn't hitting my friend he was just trying to punk him. but the fact that I choked him out so fast scared everybody else and they didn't do anything to me.
just remember your training streetfights aren't any different than an mma fight just make sure your friends are there so the friends of the guy you're fighting don't decide to jump in and start throwing sucker punches.
Take him down and choke him out ignore it if he taps cuz wen u get up he may get a cheapshot
Wen hes choked out, get up and away as soon as possible if he confronts you about it ask him how he wants too be choked out again
Doubt he will fuck with u after that
Great advise, if your an adult you'll go to jail, if you a minor your could end up in Juvenile detention (where I worked for 10 years, trust me there's not much difference). Forums are not good for legal or medical advice. Most dopes that post and give responses in such matters don't have a fucking clue what they are talking about. Bottom line avoid altercations if at all possible.
What the forums lawyers aren't telling you (because they are ignorant) is that now in most states (specifically New York) placing your hands/arms near anyone's throat during a fight/attack is a misdemeanor, and if they go unconscious its a class E felony.
Watch how well the "self defense" argument works for you, after the fact.
Emir,
I'm not telling you to get into a street fight, you should avoid those if possible. With that being said....
I think I remember you saying that you were 13. Since you are so young and you have advanced notice of this 'fight', I'll consider it more of a school yard fight than a street fight. Meaning, it doesn't sound like you'd be fighting for you life in this one.
NEVER, EVER choke someone in a school yard fight. Choking someone is considered using deadly force. You can be arrested just for doing it to someone, just as if you pulled a knife on someone, and if anything happened to the kid, you could end up in jail. Only if you felt in danger for your life, would you be able to choke someone and not be in danger of legal trouble.
Also, I'm an old man of 39 years. In that time I've learned that the only people that actively look to get into street fights are people that haven't been in enough of them to know that you won't win all the time. I've learned that while it's a lot of fun to be the winner in these things, when things go bad, they go really bad. You can't tap when you you've gotten knocked down and guys are standing around you kicking you in the face and body.
Many of these guys that look to fight all the time have self esteem issues. They have nothing going for them other than their tough guy image, so when they have an advantage, they won't stop because they have nothing to lose. These are the same guys that will reply to your post with stories of 100's of street fights and tell you how they've been shot and stabbed, etc. Don't take advice from these people. 10% of their stories are true, the rest is their need to impress you with their tough guys stories.
In summary: If you have to fight, then fight hard, but don't go looking for trouble and be sure that you don't do something in the heat of the moment that you'll have to pay for later.
Okay thank you for the advice guys. Looks like i wont be GOING to any fghts but if someone starts a fght ll make sure to give them a run for ther money.
Good thinking Emir. However I am one of those guys who would go out and apologize to the bully wanna be even if I knew I could embarrass his ass in front of everybody easily. In a street fight nobody wins. I got in to a couple, on one of the I broke somebody's nose and later on I felt like it was really not that necessary. It bugs me still to this day. Overall, if you can figure a way out to walk away, please do so. You will see that most black belts in almost all martial arts would choose to step away from a fight although they could have killed that bully or drunk bastard within seconds. It is never worth it.
try to avoid it, never start it, and if anything, strike back in defense only and always look for a way to exit the fight as soon as possible. You never know who your up against and nothing with be worse than incurring a serious injury that may affect you later on in life. Plus we live in a society that sues first and foremost
Yeah, i dont want to hurt anyone over something stupid especially since we're kids and i'll proablably regret it later on in life.
know what, they're right. you're better off avoiding the fight.
Chris is right. Laws have changed and you can face serious legal prosecution for "strangling" people. Check your state for how the low works.. http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/p...ationChart.pdf
Thankfully, in my state the wording requires the victim to be a household member or a boyfriend/girlfriend before it becomes a felony. In either case though, don't invite a fight, even if you handle things in a controlled manner something as safe as back control will look like a brutal strangulation to an untrained witness. You should hear the things people say when you grapple against somebody in public.
That is a very mature thing to say and I applaud you for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emir Mehovic
http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/p...ationChart.pdf
You notice how Texas is not on that list that is because in Texas its way better to get choked then the more likely scenario which is getting shot by somebody legally carrying. So street fights are not a good idea in Texas either.
It's insane that the law would prefer us to heel hook somebody with a $10,000 ACL reconstruction rather than gently putting them to sleep like a fussy baby. I'm surprised that martial artists everywhere are not protesting this.
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyK5
That is crazy getting choked out wont do anything in most cases unless it is done verry oftenQuote:
Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
i offer only this...
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"'What is the best way to deal with force?' -disciple Caine to one of his teachers.
'As we prize peace and quiet above victory, there is a simple and preferred method.... Run away.'" - Advice to Caine
heheh
The problem with the choking issue, at least in Los Angeles is I think due to the law enforcement. My memory may be a bit weak here, but as far as I can remember, a story told by Royce Gracie, Royce used to teach RNC to the LAPD officers, most of the officers did not grasp the idea of technique and blood choke aspect of the move and kept on putting the blade of their forearm in front of people's necks crushing their trachea. After some hospital bills and lots of complaints from the public, LAPD is banned from using choke holds as an arrest procedure. The law against choke holds may have been passed or because of that incident.
Seriously??? Even if I was totally defending myself and I needed to incapacitate someone so I could escape I'd still get in trouble?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
total bs
Damn, that's knowledge right there. I had no idea how serious choking would be of an offense. I have no intention of fighting people in the street. Still, if someone tries to hurt me physically I will have to choke them, it's all I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
\There's a HUGE difference in defending yourself in an assault (i.e. you walking out the the grocery store at 10:30 at night ,after Jiu Jitsu class of course, and as you walk up to your car you get slammed face first into your car and you have a knife in your back and you defend yourself by choking them unconscious.) versus getting in a bar fight over a spilled beer or a fight in school because you guys have beef each over liking the same girl. We are talking the difference in being assaulted vs. being in a duel.
My understanding is the law doesn't apply if you are being assaulted and defend yourself, now if your the one being assaulted and you get choked unconscious the law applies to the attacker.
If your in a duel, neither parties are protected. Mind you, dueling is subject to circumstances and legal battles. You may "get off", but at what expense?
I got jumped in the locker room at school a few months back, by 3 guys. Waited until I was changing from gym and had my shirt over my head. Didn't work out to well for them. One caught a straight right and got dropped. Another left hook to the eye. Third ran away. Biggest one I locked up with gullitine, he's the one that ate the left hook. Told him he fights back, he'll eat a knee or I'll put him to sleep. He went limp and said Ok, don't hurt me. Than I sent one of the kids watching to get the gym teacher. By time he got there and I let the get stand up. His eye was completely closed from the hook.
I completely defended myself with witness's. Got kicked out of school for a week. And was up for JR National Honor Sociaty because of this I didn't make it. All because some dumb ass's thought they were forming a gang like the bloods or crips and wanted to have a beat down on someone to prove they were bad ass.
What did I learn. Walk away when you can, fight when you have to. If you have good coach's and parents that have raised you right, you will know which one you have to do. Reguardless of the outcome.
Fighting is most of the time about a couple guys trying to prove themselves. Most of the time because they are scared weak people on the inside. I have no problem walking away from a fight if I can. I have proved myself everytime I have stepped into a boxing/kickboxing ring, cage, or onto a Jiu Jitsu mat. Most of these wanna be tough guys would piss themselves put into those places.
I am actually typing this from Prison.
invite him to the place where you train. Not to fight him but to give him an outlet and a place to let go of his aggression. Both of you will get the chance to earn each others respect and will understand each other better. You might do him alot of good if he is a troubled soul.
crazy wise for a 13 year old kid. whoever brought you up deserves a medal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conner MACHINE Gibbons
Use your "spider-senses" to help you avoid confrontation. If you don't have them, develop them. Don't be reactive to someone taunting you. You can avoid all "tough guy" type fights. "Tough guy" fights have precursors to violence which are common in every culture/race that you can easily identify;
1. Shedding: When someone about to fight starts taking off articles of clothing to prepare for the fight.
2. Woofing: Verbal racial/sexual/derogatory insults thrown in an attempt to "rile up" a potential opponent
If you see 2+ people shedding and woofing, it doesn't matter where you're from, everyone knows what that behavior means. The best fight is the fight that never happens in the 1st place. So if you commonly have guys shedding and woofing at you, there's something that could be in your persona and the way you communicate with people that incites that behavior/or fails to diffuse aggressive male behavior.
The thing you should be worried about are actual predators. Robbers, murderers, psychopaths. They are actively seeking to harm you and will show none of the precursors to violence that the "tough guy" will show. They hunt just like predatory animals and don't strike until they're in good position, ie you won't see them comming till the gun is in your back or the knife is in your side. The point is you never...ever...have to fight the "tough guy" unless that "tough guy" is physically threatening your loved ones, which isn't usually the "tough guy" target anyway. Keep the fighting in the cage, unless someone is actually trying to kill you.
I dont know if hes tryin to funny in this video...but this is the funniest shit i seen in a long while !Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rdeye