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Today while drilling RG path to Jiu claw then Ice pick I kinda noticed that if I just swing my leg closest to him up and over after sitting up and posting my opposite leg that I could get to my partners back. I was just curious if anyone has done this succesfully in a roll or if anyone has tried it and came up with reasons why we shudnt attempt it. 2 of my hotbox brothers are basicly un-omoplatable so im hopin to get some good feedback on this haha
this was in the gi? or nogi?
nogi, we were drilling so i just playing with the position, getting comfortable with it
i think you can bust a triangle
that would be sick
I was also thinking of acouple other options depnding on how your opponent moves. if they try to rolling to the side and get to their back before you do you can mount, if they roll forward hard enough side control
Mind you im a white belt and this is alll theory I just wanna hear from the more advanced guys on what they think.
Yes you can go jiu claw to the back, especially if you loose the arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyG
Trying to Omo those two guys can be summed up in 1 word....disgusting. I have that arm torqued up so high on em when I'm going for the sub, it creeps me out, and they still don't tap. I'd love that kind of submission resistance =D.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyG
I use this set up all the time .. just keep your weight on the arm with your hip for a split second when you let it "off the hook" meainng when you're not attacking the shoulder anymore... it's a money set up !!
Thanks guys, Anyone have any separate submissions or passes from jiu claw ?
Other than the back transition we just talked about.
Yesterday, I hit a north-south choke from jiu claw. You may be able to find a video of this on youtube so you can see the set up, but basically you control the speed with which they unwind and land in a twister side mount with there arm being in between your leg. Put your far arm around there head and pop your hips backwards and land on your belly. Your near arm controls there arm as you walk back and press your belly to the ground.
Ohh thats a really nice one brent, perhaps some should start like a Jiu claw series cause from the sounds of it there are many possibilities there. If anyone else has anything from that position please share!
At the Gracie gym I train at I can always get to jiu claw but never finish for some reason so im gonna start using these other set ups and see if ill have any luck with that.
just a quick clarification, I train at the hotbox with the miami members (supposedly im the Head) aswell as at carlson gracie under michael porifirio
I've really become a fan of going onto your knees, controlling the elbow, and forcing the roll into mono-control for the marcelo-esque finish.
Are you still getting the sweep if you cant finish the omo?
what sweep ?! sorry im a super white belt. ive read both books but i only use what I really remember. please explain :D
What exactly is preventing you from finishing the submission?
well depends, when I train at my hotbox nogi I cant get it because these guys are suuppppper flexible. its retarded ill take a picture and show you guys. and at the gym I cant finish cause they are all muuch muchh bigger than me so i cant reach over the to get to the shoulder.