Jon Jones....

so i just got done reading a whole forum on jon jones/anderson silva/gsp
and im getting really sick and tired of everybody putting him on a pedestal already
everybody is criticizing anderson because he said he is friends with jones and doesnt want to fight him
but wants to fight gsp
which i understand because they are each crowned #1 and #2 p4p kings in different polls
then the people in the thread had the balls to say that jones could step up to hw and beat cain, carwin, and brock anyday of the year. WOW!!
come on guys he hasnt even defended his belt once!! nor has he fought off of his back, or had his chin tested
i cant wait till anderson beats yushin, beats gsp, and then steps up to 205 after jones gets another wild hair up his ass and calls out the spider
WAR ANDERSON!!!

link to all the shit talking....
http://www.cagepotato.com/anderson-s...another-story/

Mma forums are widely known to be filled with people with too much chlorine in the gene pool.

lol whats your take on anderson fighting jones or gsp?

Anderson would get beaten by both gsp and Jon Jones.

your insane

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

your insane

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If that's what you think lol. Anderson is going to duck both of them.

nah anderson has even said he wants to fight gsp
but like i said he doesnt want to fight jones
prob doesnt wanna crush his career xD
chael could murder jones

Aldo is better than all of them p4p.

GSP has said a bunch of times he doesn't really want to go up encase he becomes a Jon Jones Jr.

nah unless aldo all of a sudden starts out wrestling better wrestlers
only reason anderson is number 1 is because of his streak, gone up in weight and won, and because he can end fights against anybody whenever he wants, wherever he wants
chael cant beat anderson
1. chael took roids
2. andersons ribs were broken
3. i think anderson let him take him down that many times so he can sub him and i think he didnt wanna finish it on the feet (which he could have easily) why else would anderson have an entrance with his gi? its cuz chael talked shit about andersons black belt
i just dont think anderson expected to get the sub that late in the fight

Anderson would beat either of them any time, not including lucky shots or injuries. jon jones may be big but hes not experienced enough yet to take on someone like silva. silva has good reach, so jones' reach wouldnt be too special. although jones throws crazy strikes in his fights, anderson throws completely controlled, 100% accurate crazy strikes at will and at the perfect moment, just look at his standing elbow KO on youtube. jones is a great wrestler, if he got a hold of silva he might be able to take him down okay, but anderson is still much better on the ground and once again has much more experience there as well. gsp is just crazy

Thank u i agree but still anderson wud do to what gsp will do this weekend to jake
stand up war, no ground fighting
i want shields to take georges down though and win :)

yeah id love to see gsp lose, but i dont want shields to win, i dunno what it is, i just dont really like him :/
i think gsp will keep it standing and dominate there, with the occasional bits of groundwork

same i was gonna say the same thing
jab, takedown, jab for 3 rounds, takedown
im sure shields will get in and get him against the fence, and im not gonna count shields out, im sure he will get atleast one takedown
that would be crazy if shields went in their though with crazy ass stand up

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Originally Posted by Karim Graham

Anderson would beat either of them any time, not including lucky shots or injuries. jon jones may be big but hes not experienced enough yet to take on someone like silva. silva has good reach, so jones' reach wouldnt be too special. although jones throws crazy strikes in his fights, anderson throws completely controlled, 100% accurate crazy strikes at will and at the perfect moment, just look at his standing elbow KO on youtube. jones is a great wrestler, if he got a hold of silva he might be able to take him down okay, but anderson is still much better on the ground and once again has much more experience there as well. gsp is just crazy

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Anderson said if Aldo was his weight he would retire.

GSP is too nice a guy to cheer against.

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

chael could murder jones

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Nooooo way. Jones is basically Chael Sonnen with the ability to finish. Plus jones is much bigger, stronger, longer, and faster. Jones would dismantle sonnen worse than he did Bader.

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Originally Posted by IrishSheep

GSP has said a bunch of times he doesn't really want to go up encase he becomes a Jon Jones Jr.

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You mean Roy Jones Jr. And he didn't necessarily say he wouldn't move up in weight. He said he doesn't want to move up and move down. It was the move down, GSP said, that negatively affected RJJ.

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Originally Posted by Karim Graham

Anderson would beat either of them any time, not including lucky shots or injuries. jon jones may be big but hes not experienced enough yet to take on someone like silva. silva has good reach, so jones' reach wouldnt be too special. although jones throws crazy strikes in his fights, anderson throws completely controlled, 100% accurate crazy strikes at will and at the perfect moment, just look at his standing elbow KO on youtube. jones is a great wrestler, if he got a hold of silva he might be able to take him down okay, but anderson is still much better on the ground and once again has much more experience there as well. gsp is just crazy

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Jones has the longest reach in the UFC. Anderson's reach is long for his division. Jones' reach would be something special. Trust me. Plus, anyone who knows Anderson's career knows that good wrestlers have been a weakness. Lutter took him down with ease. Sonnen, rib notwithstanding. Okami. Jones is much bigger, stronger, and faster than all of them....and he finishes fights.


I'm not going to say that Jones would beat Silva. Silva's a legend for a reason. The old saying, you fight with 20% of what you know. Silva fights with at least 80% of what he knows. But Jones is definitely a more credible threat than some people think. Give him some more wins over top competition. You'll see.

Nah chael would still win
Wat about jones vs heavyweights?

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

Nah chael would still win
Wat about jones vs heavyweights?

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Haha how would chael still win? Do you just not like jones? I mean, if jones can manhandle a bigger stronger wrestler in Ryan Bader, I'm sure he can handle sonnen even easier.

As far as Jones vs heavyweights, he'd have to go overeem and bulk up to at least 255 to be competitive. And once there, I think he'd do well if he keeps his speed and agility. He's always going to have the reach advantage so that's in his favor too. But I doubt he'd be able to move up right now at his current weight and hang with brock or cain or carwin. He might be able to stop big country. Haha. But if he packed on some functional muscle, I could see him being a force.

ryan isnt bigger, not that i know of maybe by height but idk about size
chael backs up his shit talking, and bader didnt do shit, if chael had a decent ranking in bjj or hell maybe even 10th planet i think he would be a serious threat on the ground
and i dont really like jones, mainly because of the fact that i knew that if he won, everybody would say "oh he needs to go to heavyweight and beat anderson", or "oh anderson needs to move up so bones can murder him" jones is a fluke

the hype about jones is what he represents...the new generation of guys that are just all about mma that never did anything else. He not only beat rua...he destroyed him and unlock Brock Rua is a Legend so you can't say that Rua was hyped or a can or anything. I think with our current batch of LHW the only 2 that have a shot at him are machida and rampage because of rampage's power and machidas awkward stand up. Not saying they would win..saying they have the most credible threats. If rampage beats Hammil I'm sure he gets the next title shot if Rashad doesn't beat Mr. Wonderful.

I think the Jones has an advantage over Silva because silva would be the person coming up to fight him. The same holds true with gsp coming up to fight silva.

As for Rashad? LOL...not even a prayer....rashad's lack of size is really going to hurt him against Jones...training with him or not. With the bigger LHWs in the mix I just don't see him being able to compete. We're not talking about Lidell and and griffin being gate keepers anymore. I expect him to beat Mr. Wonderful but I see him having a far harder time than some people expect and he may potentially be upset.

I think he would have a chance hes 5 11 and won the ultimate fighter as a heavyweight!! Fighting at like 230!!!

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

You mean Roy Jones Jr. And he didn't necessarily say he wouldn't move up in weight. He said he doesn't want to move up and move down. It was the move down, GSP said, that negatively affected RJJ.

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Yeah Fruedian slip, and I know he said the move down but its still something that would seriously affect his decision to go up in the first place.

@ Brent Ryan Bader is fucking huge dude for that division.

idk i havent really paid attention to his size but chael said he would consider moving up in weight to beat rampage
and he didnt say to fight rampage but to BEAT rampage lol
i love his cocky humor

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

ryan isnt bigger, not that i know of maybe by height but idk about size
chael backs up his shit talking, and bader didnt do shit, if chael had a decent ranking in bjj or hell maybe even 10th planet i think he would be a serious threat on the ground
and i dont really like jones, mainly because of the fact that i knew that if he won, everybody would say "oh he needs to go to heavyweight and beat anderson", or "oh anderson needs to move up so bones can murder him" jones is a fluke

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You sure you know MMA? You sound like a casual fan. Bader is HUGE. Sonnen is nowhere near as big as bader. And Jones folded him easy. Sonnen would suffer the same fate, especially with his horrible submission defense. Bader didn't do a thing because Jones shut him down. Not because he chose to do nothing.

I'll agree that it's premature to start all the Spider vs Bones threads. Bones still needs time and hasn't even defended the title. But he's far from a fluke. Bones dominates people. When's the last time you saw Matt Hammil tossed like a ragdoll and elbowed into pulp? When's the last time you saw shogun catch spinning back elbows and serious GnP? He made an undefeated Bader look like an amateur. He dismantles everyone he faces. Sorry dude, but that's no fluke.

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Originally Posted by James Davis

the hype about jones is what he represents...the new generation of guys that are just all about mma that never did anything else. He not only beat rua...he destroyed him and unlock Brock Rua is a Legend so you can't say that Rua was hyped or a can or anything. I think with our current batch of LHW the only 2 that have a shot at him are machida and rampage because of rampage's power and machidas awkward stand up. Not saying they would win..saying they have the most credible threats. If rampage beats Hammil I'm sure he gets the next title shot if Rashad doesn't beat Mr. Wonderful.

I think the Jones has an advantage over Silva because silva would be the person coming up to fight him. The same holds true with gsp coming up to fight silva.

As for Rashad? LOL...not even a prayer....rashad's lack of size is really going to hurt him against Jones...training with him or not. With the bigger LHWs in the mix I just don't see him being able to compete. We're not talking about Lidell and and griffin being gate keepers anymore. I expect him to beat Mr. Wonderful but I see him having a far harder time than some people expect and he may potentially be upset.

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With Rashad having a long layoff and his current style lending itself more to wrestling than striking, I can see Phil beating him in the wrestling game. Decision for Phil.

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

idk i havent really paid attention to his size but chael said he would consider moving up in weight to beat rampage
and he didnt say to fight rampage but to BEAT rampage lol
i love his cocky humor

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Yeah moving up means he's too small for that division. He'd have to get back on the roids to bulk up first. :)

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

nah unless aldo all of a sudden starts out wrestling better wrestlers
only reason anderson is number 1 is because of his streak, gone up in weight and won, and because he can end fights against anybody whenever he wants, wherever he wants
chael cant beat anderson
1. chael took roids
2. andersons ribs were broken
3. i think anderson let him take him down that many times so he can sub him and i think he didnt wanna finish it on the feet (which he could have easily) why else would anderson have an entrance with his gi? its cuz chael talked shit about andersons black belt
i just dont think anderson expected to get the sub that late in the fight

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that's full of shit lol Chael was landing more strikes than Anderson on the feet and once Anderson found his rhythm striking, Chael would take him down. No one is dumb enough to purposely get his ass kicked for 5 rounds. The mistake came from Chael resting in a bad position that gave Anderson the opportunity to submit him. Also, Anderson puts on his Gi a lot before or after fights.

im not meaning 5 rounds lol
im saying i think he purposesly let chael let him take him down, not on the stand up though, anderson just decided to not ko him
but he has never had an entrance with a gi

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

im not meaning 5 rounds lol
im saying i think he purposesly let chael let him take him down, not on the stand up though, anderson just decided to not ko him
but he has never had an entrance with a gi

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brent much love dude, but you don't "decide" not to ko someone. that's just not how a fight works. Unless you're mark coleman.

Brent I'm sorry but you are a................................................. .................................................. ....................................Anderson Silva nut hugger. Don't worry though mate we've all hugged someones nuts at one point in time I just finished watching like 30 Marcelo Garcia videos on youtube.

dont even get me started on lyoto machida then xD hes my fav fivhter

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Originally Posted by Brent Elton

im not meaning 5 rounds lol
im saying i think he purposesly let chael let him take him down, not on the stand up though, anderson just decided to not ko him
but he has never had an entrance with a gi

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I still don't agree but that's fine lol