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i wanna see some successful tkd guys in mma!
http://cheezburger.com/View/4725744640
There are successful TKD guys in MMA. Here's a thread on this site about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookie Monster
http://www.10thplanetjj.com/threads/...hlight=olympic
i wanna see a dude
that from the moment you see them BAM
PURE tkd and jiu jitsu
That's pretty much Anthony Pettis. I know he trains Thai Boxing now but his footwork, timing, distance control .... is still more TKD than Thai Boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookie Monster
what can you say to this ......... seagal seems to be legit in teaching guys weird kicks that fuck dudes up ......and he was weird sunglasses i think that is about it
I did not see him teach the Karate Kid switch kick in that video, is that on a different segment?
For all the hating that gets thrown at Seagal, he's a very valuable asset to have on one's coaching team.
For an old guy with a pot belly his hand speed is rediculous. There's another great video of him training with Anderson before the Sonnen fight where he's showing anderson a whole slew of small joint manipulations (IMO one of the most powerful aspects of traditional martial arts that has yet to really work its way into pro MMA, mark my words there will be a guy doing high level Qin Na in competition one day) and septum press tap outs in addition simultaneous parry and counter drills.
The leg lock was ridiculous haha
lol at kung fu
Small joint manipulations are against the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Grant
All Seagal has done is find one technique that was being under utilized in MMA, the fronk kick. The reason it was successful is because since it's under utilized it's not usually trained to defend. The same thing is happening with the jab, it's just not as noticeable because it doesn't usually knock people out. The jab, a very effective tool, was greatly lacking in MMA until recently. It's finally starting to be more utilized because people are becoming more successful with it. Rubber guard, the truck, the twister, etc... are all examples of this too, they are techniques and positions that the majority aren't training so since they are under utilized they have a higher chance of being successful until everyone gets savy. Then you have to find new ways of going about things little changes evolving the game adding new tools to your box. Thats all the front kick is just an under utilized tool, common in many traditional martial arts.
well then from that angle Steven seagal helped evolve mma. never thought I'd ever say that considering how much I hate his movies. But credit should be given where it's due. The dude helped 2 top tier fighters ko their opponents. That's insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Maxwell
LOL Yeah, I guess he did. It's always cool to see MMA fighters increase their fighting knowledge and evolve the sport. So, I guess props to Seagal.Quote:
Originally Posted by zaya
But...... Do u guys notice how Steven Segal is working with the best of the best? Anderson, Machida, the black house guys...
Do u see Steven Segal working with Brandon Vera?
Seagal def still knows what he's doing. And TKD will slowly make it's way back into MMA!
Didn't Anderson and machida admit on video somewhere that they were just trolling everyone by giving seagal credit? I'm confused :)
An apt title to the thread Eddie , indeed the video is insane or more likely Mr Seagal is insane.....Machida is so respectful he just listens intently nodding his head , however I think the look on his face is incredulous.
The stuff he was showing reminds me of one step Karate drills ; you attack me with this punch , you grab my arm here blah blah blah . All great in theory , but in reality, fighting the highest level and most exceptional athletes on the planet ( Like Machida does) , highly unlikely to be effective.
I think Anderson and Machida just condone this man's crazy talk beacuse they are such respectful guys. I would respect what Steven Seagal says if he demonstrated some of his moves in MMA specific drills with an uncompliant training partner.
Regarding Mr Seagal taking credit for the front snap kick ; Machida has done Shotokan for many years and the front snap kick is taught from day one and the jumping front kick from green belt and above, I did Shotokan for over 10 years in my younger years so am well aware of it. If you watch the video you can see Machidas kick looks awesome and Seagals looks poor so I'm not buying him improving Machidas or Andersons front kicks, they both have awesome kicks already.
Thank God we have moved on from all this hypothetical fighting and we have the UFC !
Ps Big up Eddie , love your stuff and 10th Planet !
I was crying with laughter at that 2 ! Awesome !Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteMike2k9
ya apparently some people are just to gullible to get it! Steven Seagal is a joke people he did not teach Lyoto or Anderson shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
I'm with you on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
My Invincible Dyslexic Squirrel Style can defeat your Drunken Ostrich Kung Fu!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenegan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsFmWipioeg
I hope I have put this silly ass non sense to bed.(on this forum anyway)
Classic Bas Rutten! lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie
Segal may have trained these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnjb8Hx76u8
here's the thing: there are lots of great principles to learn from all of these arts. aikido, kung fu, TKD, etc... the problem is that they train without resistance, so the effectiveness in a real situation gets lost for the most part. Wristlocks are super effective: Lucas Leite got caught in one at the Pan Am's this year. You could learn a lot about the intricacies of wristlocks by spending some time with an Aikido guy.
People used to say karate absolutely couldn't work. We can see that isn't true now. It's just that the traditional way we teach and train karate doesn't work. And it can't work by itself as an "ultimate style."
I think your right !! Ha ha ha ha, awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiko