I've been watching the Ryan Hall Deep Half Guard DVDs, and I want to know how you would complete the waiter sweep without having a gi to hold on to? Any help would be appreciated.
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I've been watching the Ryan Hall Deep Half Guard DVDs, and I want to know how you would complete the waiter sweep without having a gi to hold on to? Any help would be appreciated.
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ok, so you go into deep half,
you wrap your leg around them like anaconda guard,
you put your wrist on the INSIDE of your body not OUTSIDE his leg INSIDE to his ANKLE.
doing this makes their leg lighter and easier to move
as you lift UP with your wrist you push DOWN on their leg
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sweep
Yes, I watched that video too, but what Hall was saying the DVD was that the guy can post with both his hands and then be able to shrimp their hips away if you don't control their posts. In this video they partner just falls back. I just trust what Ryan Hall is saying more than a video some guy threw up on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJqMqsHvw34
At 3:30 into that video you can see Hall holding the right sleeve of the guy he's trying to sweep
[QUOTE=Landon DuMar;59123Hall holding the right sleeve of the guy he's trying to sweep[/QUOTE]
SO HOLD HIS WRIST INSTEAD
problemsolved
I'm not sure but I think the trick is to be Ryan Hall at about 2:39 of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=curRC4pAE-w
Not always gonna be an option to get the wrist, I was taught to hook the leg like the first video. If you can get the wrist then get it, the more limbs you can control the better.
The real problem
This thread has little or no Jeff Glover in it.
Lol
jeff glover/bill cooper is always relevant
check out Jeff Glover Deep Half dvd, its great!
Ok, thanks for the input
This move is probably, more than any other, THE go-to move at my gym. We call is the little chair, because it looks at one point like the guy is sitting in a chair that is too small for him. We rarely grab the wrist, yet the move works for us, even for brown/black-belts in competitions. It's about driving your opponent's knee outward and rotating with it. If you don't get it the first time, just rock your hips and thrust your legs again. Sometimes is takes 4 or 5 rocks to get the angle and position you need, but be persistent, and you will get the sweep. Even if he posts, it will open up the same sweep at slightly different angles.
One more VERY important note. We stopped opening our legs for the sweep in our gym. In other words, we actually keep them triangled rather than separated when we rock the opponent over. The second leg (the one wrapped over the driving leg's ankle, or the right leg in the videos) gives you a lot of extra push if you try the rocking back and forth method (see above post), and it makes it harder for the guy to catch you in half guard as you get on top. Try to continue the motion, drop your far shoulder (left shoulder in the videos) into the opponent's stomach, and pass right into side control as you get on top.
eh, im watching it right now, i dont like the way he instructs doesnt sound very factual, seen ALOT of these moves on OTHER dvds (which is fine) also, the comedy bits inbetween are kinda obnoxious, i also disagree with some of the ways he says to do some of the movesQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrisSosa
I kinda agree, but I still get a lot from him. I think Jeff teaches conceptual stuff really well, but doesn't necessarily break it down as well as some (in his videos, at least). So, I like to watch his stuff, and then see how other guys are applying it. My favorite person for this is Ryan Hall, for example.
Also, how you play deep-half changes a lot based on your body type, as well as the body type of the guy on top of you. So, he might be showing you the best way for someone built like Jeff Glover to sweep a stout opponent, while you are way stockier and trying to sweep a far lankier opponent (just random adjectives, I don't know your build obviously). The point is, once you get the moves down, play with them a bit. Change things like angles and grips, and see what works for you. It's impossible to say "do this move exactly like this" for every move in the deep-half, because the position is so complicated. It's like "the guard": everyone does it a little differently.
someone just told me to checkout CHRIS BRENNAN noidea who he is / what hes about, but im on it! ill report more when i check his story out