I was rolling with some simi-new people today but I'm 5'6" about 190lbs. They had to be pushing 300+ and atleast a foot in height on me. My arms and legs too short to secure much of anything (few failed armbars, leg locks and chokes) so I just out worked them until they gassed. Any better way to defeating these giants? I hate it when they just flop on me and try to get a tap with there weight!!! Oh yeah, I'm also nursing a herniated disc in my lower back. :(
jesus i have this exact problem, hes a little shorter than me but still like 80 lbs heavier and he just judo throws me and uses his strength against me
Don't grapple with big dudes if you're injured.
Consider that a rule to live by.
Just straight up tell them. When I was new, I was using my weight and strength on people who were smaller than me, without actually realizing it. One day a guy who was much larger than me man-handled me pretty good and I asked him why he was going so hard with me, he told me he is just going as hard as I was. There I realized, things that feel normal to me, maybe hurting/preventing others from trying out techniques they learn in practice. Since that day, I roll much smoother, pay way more attention to how much my weight my training partner can handle etc.. This is usually only a problem at the beginning stages since, guys who are blue belt and above are skilled enough to protect themselves, even the opponent is much larger.
NoGi is much harder with bigger guys.
Just say "same team same team fargo" when new guys get to tense
Just get on top and stay there
ditto about wait til injury healed......otherwise watch Marcelo for tips
Thanks for the replies. Injury is feeling decent (pinched nerve is almost not bothersome anymore) or I wouldn't have rolled or agreed to compete this Saturday in a gi-only tournament. Still debating on doing an absolute white belt or not. My first gi-only tournament also. I roll with some guys that are around 140lbs and I make sure to be nice but at the beginning they used to beat me up so I like payback sometimes :cool:
Get your Reps in on the ankle lock that einstein showed on mts that would help along with the other suggestions.
1 of 2 ways. Out work them stay moving don't let them settle. The other is get dom position and ride them till they are tuckerd out and sub them.
arm drag to the back makes my life SOOOO much easier against the heftys. get really good at the arm drag.
butterfly guard! deep half maybe if you got the move down. if your underneath u want to be as underneath as possible. under his center of mass, it will make him feel a lot lighter.
Definitely take the back, always
win
Stay on top.
Thanks, I will rep these a.s.a.p.
Butterfly guard..prison guard works well too
I always choose bicep slicers over arm bars every time there's an opening.
Man I have the same problem. A couple guys at my gym are 260 plus with good BJJ and a little bit of height on me (I'm 6ft 145). My best solutions I have come up with so far is to play a little more open and wild then I like to. Personally I have a hard top getting top position on them in a scramble so more often than not I pull guard and try to throw up pop triangles or quick armbars (the armbars are much lower % for me). Also keep an eye out for inverted triangles especially the one setup from a recent MTS I have been having some success with that on the bigger guys as well. Like someone else said leg locks are always an option, I have been working on adding Einsteins ankle lock to my game but I haven't caught it on any of the big guys yet (havent went for it on them either though.) Other than that the other thing I look for on them is free New Yorks from the cocoon or any position where you see the opportunity, I have trouble getting the normal step by step rubber guard on the really big guys but if I can get free New Yorks I at least have something to work with. Good luck hope this helps....try to stay away from
half guard with way heavier guys too, I get smashed a lot if I try to play half with them. Like others have mentioned arm drag to the back and prison guard are great options too...in fact i think im going to make prison guard my new project.
Story of my life in JJ! I'm always the smallest in class. Butterfly, X-guard and prison guard are what work for me alot
Get on top and keep transitioning and wear them out... If they power up into turtle then go through the twister path. Big guys don't like calf cranks.
Oh yea I hear ya on not pulling half guard on them. Unless they have a weak base the old school takes alot of work & forget about the electric chair sweep but it does help set-up the oldschool.