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Hey guys,
I saw this video during my break at work one day, not sure if anyone has ever brought this up here...but this guy talks about how dangerous it is to have flexible knees. This has not convinced me to stop working my rubber guard. However, it has made me think about ways to avoid injury. What are your opinions on it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obNRbziR2_k
The rubber guard is all about HIP flexibility not knee flexibility!
dam...it used to hurt my knees like hell, I still have problems doing kung fu move to get to jiu claw because I feel tightness in my knees when trying to work the rubber guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Alighieri
angles are really important too instead of being square with your partner try to be a bit more on the side. That'll make the jiu claw/gogoplata... a lot more easier to hit if you're lacking of flexibility.
Can you double lotus easy?
Can you put both knees on the mat when you're doing the butterfly stretch?
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Alighieri
He's half right. I'm not a fan of closed chain knee circles either, and he does make a valid point about knee stability. But dragging Eddie's name into it is, I feel, disingenuous. While Eddie does refer to some stretches as 'knee' stretches or talks about 'stretching your knees', the truth is that what he refers to are primarily hip stretches. ANY stretches that one performs that either cause, or feel like they're causing undue stress to the inside or outside of your knee should be stopped immediately, because it means either 1) you're doing the stretch wrong or 2) it's a crappy stretch. Hypermobile knees are bad news but doing rubber guard stretches - correctly - are a far cry from causing your knees to blow out. Flexibility takes time and consistency, and shouldn't be rushed.
LOL flexible knees.
I can get to the lotus stretch fairly easily now after working on it. However, my knees cannot touch the ground when doing the butterfly stretch. I'm pretty sure if my hips were more flexible I wouldn't feel my knees so much. Definitely trying to do things the right way. I been working my positioning and trying to make everything work but my flexibility always sucked balls! It's frustrating when I am rolling and see things that I could get in to and can't finish because usually my knees start to tense and I start opening my guard. My knees used to cause me a lot of problems so when I saw this video I was like, shit...wtf, if I don't work on my knees I wont be able to do shit, so I just disregarded it.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Alighieri
There you go, you hit the nail right on the head. IMO hamstring flexibility is the most important thing to work on for the knees, most people's quad flexibility is pretty good. It just takes a while for some people (myself included), don't get frustrated. I found Eddie's flexibility video to be very inspiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophana Sok
Interesting........when is legibility ever a bad thing anyway? Take your time no rush, gentle and easy does it goes far in this area. Problems start when fools tug and pull ton their limbs cold. No wonder! Anyway, I don't totally agree with all in this clip
If there's pain in your knee when doing rg you gotta change your technique a bit. I've seen someone pop their knee just from trying to squeeze mission control. The knee has no side to side mobility
Dexterity with external hip rotation is everything! With most stretches you should think active not passively manipulating a loose limb. The hard part with dexterity in the beginning is the concept of moving a limb in a unique / new direction without the use of other limbs. I'd start by trying to actively widen your hips. lay on your back with knees bent and feet up and try to widen your hips as you bring your knees / direct your knees towards your chest. Usualy being somewhat explosive tied with your breathing makes a huge difference. If the explosive movement feels good with an inhail then definitely do this on your back. If you like to do it on the exhale and this exerciese feels awkward on your back then try it on your knees in a crouch / fetal type position while staying very centered. Once you've gotten the hang of widening your hips, add the concept of "winding" as well. Make sure your hips are still spreading just as wide but simultaneously wind them in the "rubber gaurd" direction. Most likely your legs will barely rotate if at all but you'll feel the muscles / ligaments being worked. Then when you grab the leg it will be assisting this active motion and not torking on your knee. This will probably take a lot of experimenting to find what fits you best and it might even be a new variation that suits how you like to move. here's a link to an exerciese that you should do before and after your other stretches (it's for people with hyper extended knees due to flexability) as a precaution.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/12...nee-exercises/
There is such thing as healthy knee flexability and it is also used to treat injuries. here's a youtube link for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS5wd1xetoY
Good luck bro
Where is this guys credibility? A fitness instructor certificate (it means gym membership and private training salesman) does not make you an expert on the knee joint. Also, stability and flexibility are two totally different things. Stability comes from your muscles not how long or short the connective tissue is. If that was the case, gymnasts could not even walk around. Their hips would shift around with every step, they would step over their own ankles and stuff. This guy does not even know the definition of stability or flexibility, has no credibility and makes one statement, with no proper purpose, proof or solution. Complete waste of time.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by JusLove
I'm not sure what people are referring to when they say "flexible knees". The knee is a complicated joint, but I'm pretty sure there is nothing to stretch in your actual knees. I'm not an expert by any means, but if you are looking for good range of motion and mobility, I would think that having flexible hamstrings, quads, and hips would want to be worked and kept loose. Rolling out the IT band as well. If you want to have the flexibility to play rubber guard, your entire lower body needs to be loose and flexible.
Instead of focusing on one area of the body, you should stretch the body as a whole. Having a tight lower back can come into play as well.
I was actually going to point that out but I never got around to it... the guy has no credentials to speak of, not that I could find, anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK5
Yeah I think looking up some gymnasts comments or tutorials would be smart. It's one of the few sports where flexability and strength have to be equal. It would make sense that just focussing on either flexability or strength alone would have downsides. Watching Penn jump out of the pool probably opened some eyes to how strenth and flexability can work simultaneously. It also probably caused a lot of people to fuck themselves up on the sides of their pool.
lol i like to hit da chronic and stretch out....jus sayin