If you could only have access to one or the other, would you rather have access to a cage or a ring?
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If you could only have access to one or the other, would you rather have access to a cage or a ring?
Cage
So if u get into the ufc or any other promotion with em u can be used to wall walking and keeping em up against it and not getting put up against it
I would say cage. I don have a good reason but it seems like it would be better
In my opinion it's way better to go with the cage considering it's a JJ/MMA Gym and not a boxing or kickboxing gym you are running... you can train boxing and Kickboxing in a cage with the only exception of not being able to practice corner escapes... But if somebody trains Grappling or MMA in the ring he would be a fish out of water in a cage fight...The ring is perfect for pro boxing or pro kickboxing training but who would go to a MMA gym to become a pro Boxer/Kickboxer? the ring makes no sense to me.
It's kind of like Gi vs No Gi, lol. Which one are you going to fight in? If your fighters want to make it to the big time, that means the UFC, and that means an Octagon.
Amateur fights in Quebec are always in a ring though...
The cage has its ups and downs. Practicing like you play is important, but I feel like you get more injuries training in a cage. Most all promotions at this point have one, so if someone at your school is fighting mma, it's good to get some time in one. Fingers and toes and ears get caught and it can not be much fun at times. You can get some padded walls to practice wall walking and wall related drills. That's a tough call the more I think about it. Good question.
Cage so i can practice using it as a tool.
My issue is that I will probably be moving to a slightly larger location. And I mean slightly. I am debating whether to just keep it all mat space OR add a small cage somewhere OR add a ring OR add a ring and also some cage panels alongside the mats OR a larger rectangular caged area that wouldn't really compromise space. Any thoughts?
smaller cage deffinetly man! Deffinetly!
You could also use the cage as multple warmups if your training in the cage.
I was researching recently into having a couple of cages built and i found one site that does a half cage/ half ring kinda deal... that'd probably suit your needs if it's only for training in!
I'd say cage. You don't even need a full cage, just a segment or a half cage like Ashley said so you can get the feel of it without taking up too much space.
Even like a cage wall would be sweet.
id take the gi. its way more important
Cage. It's a totally different element and it has to be mastered like a tool in order to gain an edge on your opponent. For example, on the open mats my Judo is almost non existent. In the cage I'm like Gene Lebell once I get them against the fence. Same for my wrestling.. knowing that I can drive without hitting an unpadded wall or another training group was a huge psychological plus in developing my single and double leg takedowns.
At Hard Knox we currently have a medium sized cage. The Cage is EXTREMELY important for learning cage takedowns, fighting for underhooks while standing, and escaping ground and pound while your head is pressed against the cage. However, this takes up a TON of our space and if we could do it all over again we would have just went with a Cage Wall.
Half cage will run $4000 two cage panels are $1800. The angles are the main thing to learn in the cage. Trapping people in the corners of the cage.The spring back is different between rings and cages. Working off a padded wall helps with takedowns. Monsterringsandcages.com said the can make anything whatever size. If you have MMA guys it helps but it is not necessary. Ive seen good fighters come out of gyms without cages and Ive seen shitty fighters come out of guys with every amenity availible.
When deciding on what to have in Elements we went with a small/medium ring over a cage and then had cage walls put around 3 sides of our 100 sq metre mat area.
Looking back I think it was a good choice. It ticks all the boxes.
I like that the ring takes away from some of the BS of wrestlers - pin you up against the cage and lean on you for 2 minutes.
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Thats what I would do Louis.
Frank:cool: