I train Gracie Barra once a week Gi , And have been training 10th planet for 3 months now. I'm thinking of competing in Aug at Lutador ...I don't know many submissions yet were only tought to defend in Gracie Barra as a white belt . I've been working on half guard and mission control a lot and sweeps from half and full guard. Should I wait or go ahead and go for it? Thanks
hmm.. there are novice divisions and what not.. but one thing you ll find is crazy sandbagging. id say you wait till you got 6 mos under your belt and rotate in with new schools/students.
I always learn soooo much in competition and in my opinion it isnt about winner or losing, just progressing.
Thats what I'm thinking , I would like to get the fill and there are Mens Beginner No-GI Open Division and Mens Intermediate No-GI Open Division @ LUTADOR CHALLENGEQuote:
Originally Posted by nathan orchard
I cant help but think the whole only learning defense as a white belt thing isnt the right way to go.
Tell me about it ... We learn some submissions but are not aloud to use them when we roll. Atleast thats the way it is where I take Gi . I feel like its crippling because when I get to a good position I really struggle. But learning and working the 10th planet system is helping tremendously , from New York I can go into a gogoplata or a omoplata pretty well. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
Do it dude i did one after a few months and i took 2nd at a Grappler X and that was just with Master Eddies books ,then i got choked out my next one lol... just do it if you win sweet if not who cares ether way you gain major experience points and you'll know what to do better the next time and your still a white belt so its not going to be a big let down if you dont win versus being a blue or purple belt.just dont brake the bank trying to pay for it or anything if its crazy expensive they dont even bother brother man.
Go for it. All experience is good experience.
Btw your avatar pic is COOL
Learning such an aggressive system like 10th PJJ has to help tip the scale back in the right direction. Rolling with out submissions occasionally can be a pretty benificial especially if you're rolling against someone who isn't as good as you. They don't get too discouraged and you get to tighten up some of your positions that you're not the best at but doing that all of the time would be pretty boring IMO.
Where I train is Gracie Barra and we have around 35 signed up for Gi Jiu jitsu ,But only 8-10 show for class... And they are all Blue and purple belts, So I roll with people way better then me right now. I actually rarely roll with a white belt. Even the guys I practice the 10th planet system with are blue belts. Makes wonder how I'd do against another white belt. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
Thanks ! I used photobucket to give it the E.T. heartlight /neon look .Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew Stuart
I was wondering the same thing. EGO is here in Louisville in September. And I officially started in a proper gym yesterday. so that will be about three months. I think Im gonna do it, just to see. maybe gi and no gi. depends on how my cardio is by then.
I competed in my first tourny after roughly 3 months. It was an awesome experience and made me that much more ready to win my 2nd tournament. I'd say do it, you can never have enough experience. Don't be nervous, just try and have an option for every position.
do it man...you have nothing to lose...its all just for fun anyway right?? If you like to compete give it a shot and if you in awesome and if you lose study the tape and see here you can improve your game :)
Thanks VJ , I'm going to go ahead and sign up for Lutador then Naga . I'm just hoping to be put up against white belts.Quote:
Originally Posted by VJ Bella
Damn Eric, I kind of feel bad about your classes. I always preach to my guys about how you won't truly understand how far you've come until a new guy comes in. I don't mean we punish the noobs, but it's just different. We have rolled for a looong time with only our class of about 14 adults. Everyone had learned each others fav sweeps, bad side, limitations, etc. It was hard to progress like this. The white belts were getting discouraged. Hell, so was I lol. Then when new blood came in, it was like someone flipped the excitement switch. The white belts started progressing again and were amazed at how much they already had learned. I think the tourney is a great idea! Good luck bro. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised!
Do it.... And like VJ said, tape it!!!
If you win, great...
If you lose, and you watch yourself loosing, it might motivate you to try harder next time.
That's what it did for me anyway.
*losing
Next time we train hopefully I can get my friend Caleb to come. He's a little bigger than me but a white belt for sure. It would help him to roll with since everyone he's trains with is a blue too.
Do it man! I've got to say I'm really in the same boat, debating if I'm going to compete that is. There's a tournament out here in July I want to compete in, but I'll only be training for about 3 months when it comes around. At first I thought I would just skip it, but I'm starting to see improvement in my game and the guys at the gym (Dave that's you especially) have really been going out of their way to help me grow.
Here's what it came down to though... I love jiu-jitsu and eventually want to be a tough competitor and the only way to eventually become that is compete. The way I am looking at this first tournament experience is just that, an experience. I'm a white belt going into a beginner's division with nothing to lose. If I go in and lose my first match, well that's just life. I'm using this to see what games people play in the beginner division, how tournaments go, to see my friends/coaches compete and just to have fun. Don't get me wrong though, I'm working my ass off so hopefully it doesn't get handed to me in the tournament ;)
I'm not sure if this applies to you or not, but for me getting to compete in my own weight class is going to be a HUGE difference. I'll be competing in men's beginner roosterweight (122lbs and under). I'm around 115lbs right now for me I almost always give up AT LEAST 30-40lbs when rolling in the gym so I'm really excited to see where I stand with guys my own size.
I would say it depends on how well you can take defeat and whether you deal well with disapointments.
Be prepared to get submitted real fast.
If youre the sort of guy who can take positives from even the worst outcomes then go for it.
But if you have a real competitive streek in you then you might want to think about how you will deal with what could very well be a quick loss. Will you over analyse it? Will it play on your mind every time you turn up to training for the next week?
Also is it a lose and youre out deal or can you lose and get more matches in this tournament? Definitely something to find out if you dont already know.
I've only been actually practicing 10th Planet for 3 weeks and I'm competing June 25th. Granted I've studied the system for over 2 years and I've had a year of gracie jiu jitsu about 4 years ago. But yes, if you're preparing properly, 3 months is plenty!
The only way to know how tourneys are and play out is to enter tourneys. Then you tell others to just do it. When matches start, stay warm.