Asking for some advice

I'll make this short. In the past few weeks this happened to swim.
Lost scholarship to college
Lost position in the NROTC
Lost career chances with the Marine Corps, any hopes of becomming an officer, or even a grunt for that matter
school administration asked swim leave campus this year.

have no where to live in 1 month
also having to switch majors because of the 8 semester language course requirement, (short term memory is shot to shit).
have to go to court to fight off 5 charges, which will probably either see jail time or some program(pure luck if this happens)


So, any advice would be cool. plan was to go into military (obv) but thats not happening anymore... and unfortunately, no other plans were made

My advice to is thinking of packing, and moving somewhere, live in the car, get a job and keep training bjj

Can you say what your charges are?

swims charges are controled substances, alc, open container, killing plants in a national forest, open fire, and alcohol

Hire a good lawyer...may I recommend an associate of mine Taylor Culbertson?

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Originally Posted by karl "kza"

swims charges are controled substances, alc, open container, killing plants in a national forest, open fire, and alcohol

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That sucks dude but depending on what sticks you may still have a shot at the enlisted side...of the Army. Then if you really want to go O there are plenty of E to O programs. Good luck man.

literally just got back from the recruiting office and it's a no go for army airforce or navy. apparently because the economy is in shit every1 is signing up and they are turning people down who don't have 'problems'. navy dude and army laughed, but the airforce told me to come back after its cleared up (if that happens)

I mean if you tell them you are charged with all that then ya they will laugh but when its all said and done maybe all you have is open container, and fire in a national park. That looks a lot better than than "Ya uh I've been charged with five different crimes do you think you can waive that?" Good luck man. I'm just surprised the AF was more open than the Army. I know the Army was letting convicted felons in for a while...

K im gonna be completely logical here
Care to hate i dont care
Get a part time job, doing something
Go to college and get a degree in something easy (after u get back on ure feet u can go back for a different degree)
And dont pay to train jiu jitsu, that is the least of your worries right now

re-attack with the military once things clear up a lil, and you know what is going on.
dont let them lie to you buddy, they ALWAYS need people. what was your ASVAB score? higher than 80s and you can still get all but the AF. if you are 90+ you still got them too.
Army and Marines (no offence) are easy. just do yourself a favor and DO NOT go open general.
Ask around bud, tons of military guys are given options when they first enlist- Join the Military or Jail Time.
when talking to an attorney (public or private) tell them that you WANT to go in and that was your goal before this. I've never seen a judge (or cop for that matter) not take it easy on someone who wants to join (or is in).
seriously, dont listen to recruiters now. once things slow down, they will be bothering you like a fly in a strippers crotch.

i've already gotten everything ready for court, my 98 on asvab. Lawyer also told me same things as recruiters. Before I even got into trouble, it was hard to get a job with the military. Trust me, they don't need that many people anymore. And I did ask my lawyer about the jail or army thing, and he said they stopped doing that almost a decade ago haha.
This is also the 3rd time I have lost my military scholarship, each time it was for a 'worse' reason. I doubt I'll get it back, and after the things I have heard, and from my understanding, why would I even want to go into the military for our goverment after all the bullshit they deal back to us. my respect has slowly dwindled down, all military personell are expendble in one sort of way or another, and I thought this even before the trouble started, and the way all my military connections have left me in the dust only confirms my thoughts.


From all my friends (who are in iraq and afagan) their advice is that they only do it because they were naive at first, and only continue their current job to help those around them (as in making sure they keep their heads along with their friends) and all my reasons for wanting to join while I was in HS was just some guts and glory bullshit like the rest of the 18 year olds who signed up to be grunts.

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Originally Posted by karl "kza"

i've already gotten everything ready for court, my 98 on asvab. Lawyer also told me same things as recruiters. Before I even got into trouble, it was hard to get a job with the military. Trust me, they don't need that many people anymore. And I did ask my lawyer about the jail or army thing, and he said they stopped doing that almost a decade ago haha.
This is also the 3rd time I have lost my military scholarship, each time it was for a 'worse' reason. I doubt I'll get it back, and after the things I have heard, and from my understanding, why would I even want to go into the military for our goverment after all the bullshit they deal back to us. my respect has slowly dwindled down, all military personell are expendble in one sort of way or another, and I thought this even before the trouble started, and the way all my military connections have left me in the dust only confirms my thoughts.


From all my friends (who are in iraq and afagan) their advice is that they only do it because they were naive at first, and only continue their current job to help those around them (as in making sure they keep their heads along with their friends) and all my reasons for wanting to join while I was in HS was just some guts and glory bullshit like the rest of the 18 year olds who signed up to be grunts.

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Well it's def not for everyone, but you cant say 18 year olds who signed up did it for guts and glory. That said I agree, if you roll into an Army recruiting office when this bs clears up they will do anything to put you in. Recruiters have quotas, if they don't meet it they get in trouble simple as that. It makes them look good when they put a lot of people in the military. But i mean man even If you do 4 and out its a good experience in my opinion. GL with everything though...maybe you should just idk try to stay out of trouble?

@Kendall You would be surprised at how selective the Marines can be at times.

Yea, but after all this my point is that I do not feel like having to already re-do everything. Time to start anew a think...

I'm looking for an alternative path besides a military career now, that would be suited to someone with such skills I guess?

Too long, didn't read, but I would kill myself.

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Originally Posted by Taylor Culbertson

Too long, didn't read, but I would kill myself.

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Dude don't bail on him. I already recommended you as his lawyer...

oh, in that case the little slut should have never worn a skirt!

im 27, was recently medically retired from AFSOC.
they dont want haphazard records, but they do want smart people. with a 98, they will take you...just a matter of when.
well...depending on the severity of your charges I guess. But I just helped someone with GTA get in the Army... so its not impossible.

Honestly, i say dont do it, but thats my personal opinion. I had no 'guts and glory' ideas when I went in, I just needed to change up things. Figured going AFSOC would take away the BS...but no. The stories I have make everyone shutter.
It's def not for everyone. If you can follow command, I think its great sometimes. Me, i HATE people telling me what I HAVE to do.
Glad I did it, have amazing stories, incredible friendships and untouchable experience, but id never allow myself to join in the first place, if i had the ability. Fuck those BS wars that are for nothing but oil and money.

well thought i would ask for help. because im about to leave, this is a wonderful site and I want to say thanks. I think I only have a few more weeks of a pro memership, but maybe I'll come train/or come back here at least one day.

Good luck Karl. It sounds like you have rough waters ahead.

It really depends what your charges are, and how they happened in the first place. I feel like generally, if you can form a reasonable story that will make people understand how a good person ended up in a bad situation, you can talk your way around a lot of things like that. Make friends with a recruiter, write letters, and go do things that make your resume look better. Also, people who have current employment always appear more desirable to hire or recruit, even if it is just a temporary spot at a coffee shop. Then again, if you got pulled over with a BAC of .21 doing double the speed limit and swerving while driving the wrong direction up a one way, it's not going to seem understandable. And yes, I had a friend who did exactly that, who used to be ROTC.