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Hello I am new here and wanted to ask if Lifting weights really hard with heavy weights and doing jiu jitsu in the same day bad? I am 46 years old now and it seems I am not able to do everything like when I was younger. I could hardly lift my arms to drive home the other day after Jiu jitsu. The pain was really bad. Thanks for any help here.
I am 28 and can't lift and roll in the same day.
Y not?
Muscles need recovery time.
Do it!
I would brake it up on days for sure. The type of lifting you do also will change a bit.
Find someone that will Hollywood roll with you. i dont know what other names there are for it. Thats what Erik Paulson calls it. Its when you roll no more than 10 percent power and speed and you kinda let each other accomplish your sweeps and catch and release submissions. You dont really resist anything you learn to go with the flow. Used to warm up doing that in CSW class. Helps a lot to get new movements down to.
I was wondering what you mean by the type of lifting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Art "ART OF WAR" Belarde
always lift before you roll.. just what i found because after rolling if you dont have some random injury the sheer exhaustion will hold you back from being able to hit the gym later. when i have time i do a morning lift and evening jits.
I am curious of your age?Quote:
Originally Posted by snoogens44
A black belt at my gym suggested to lift afterward.
Plyo, bodyweight excercises, and focusing on clenching while drilling or rolling is all i do. No weights and i am strong for my weight.
I have been doing Piyo which is also very good for my strength and streching. I may just be me over doing it ,and not letting the body rest enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
interesting may give that a try and see how that goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Stolfi
I lift on off days when I can, but I often lift before training. If you have no other time to do it, you'll eventually get used to it. When I lift heavy and train, I feel the most strong. Just keep up the good work, you will get used to it. Everyone has their own opinion of what is best to do as seen above, but if you've been lifting and lifting heavy, don't stop. You will lose weight and strength, and be pissed. Keep doing both.
Thanks I was hoping that this would happen. I think after a month or 2 it may get easier. I HOPE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Landon DuMar
listen to your body. if you go straight into lifting and doing jitz your body will not be able to handle the shock put on it. I use to lift and do jitz (and sometimes muy thai) the same day at age 19 and I saw no gains in muscle mass or strength, regardless of how much protein and carbs I took in. You are 46. I actually make fairly significant gains in strength when I seperate lifting days and jitz.
If you do jitz 5 days a week, then I suggest setting aside 2 days during that week to do a full body workout 6 hours before or 6 hours after your jitz. This will allow your body to recover between workouts and will prevent overtraining. make sure you take in adequate carbs and protein between workouts.
Unless you are on some kind of testosterone therapy, or are Randy Couture (who is most likely on test therapy) I would not recommend lifting and doing jitz the same day, unless you do jitz 5 days a week in which case you don't really have a choice.
Wat if u hit puberty at 12 and have been shaving since 12? Wud u recommend lifting and jits like 4 times a week?
Think about periodizing your training. I.E. (for example) take several months to lift hard and roll with less intensity during that period, then switch it around. Cardio is more labile than maximum strength - conditioning fades fast, strength relatively slowly. Once you're as strong as you want to be it should take significantly less work to just maintain it, and you can focus on other attributes. For my money, don't try to do everything at once. $0.02c.
I agree that conditioning fades fast.This may be the way to go. I am thinking more twards this way of training. I am also thinking of just lifting on the off days. The thing is I am a cardio nut so that is also not a issue. I want to be strong on the weights and be good at jiu jitsu so I have to find a balance. I think I will figure it out soon. Thanks to everyone for the help and advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisha James Baker
I lift weights in the early morning and do jits in the evening. I havent had any problems doing it this way. When i was working out right before jits, i would cramp up really bad.
its all bout nutrion. you are what you eat. i have helped lot of guys with this type of program. good easy asorb. whey protien. lots of bcaas exta glutamine and stretch stretch stretch. i would also go with the advice of using more tech. then strength when you roll. on the days that you do this try to stay hydrated we 70 percent water so that will help with recovery. there is also q protien called probolic sr you can take 2 scoops before bed you will recover in half the time. its all about smarter not harder
dnQuote:
Originally Posted by natetheguy
for the protien you want a low cal isolate. you will take 1 shake in the am and 1 post lifting. take your bcaas with your am shake also take multivitamine.
that cause you were dehydrated if you drink coconut water before you lift and then before you roll you would be fine you want to take abou 12-16 oz at a time i recomend vita cocoQuote:
Originally Posted by Randy Butler
don't forget to stretch before and after you lift
I do this with everyone regardless of how much bigger, faster or stronger they are. It helps you find the perfect spots to make moves work, otherwise you get smashed lol I work out right after BJJ everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
billyj. im 24