Where da gi virgins at

I cant be the only one. No-gi since Oct. 2005. Been to gi classes but never worn a gi once. My no-gi gym is an hour and 45 minutes away. Renato Tavares affiliate 10 minutes from my house and the gi is mandatory. Checked out the teaching and they actually stress not using grips while passing and other stuff during training. Sucks that they're probably not gonna like me doing 50/50 guard and leg locks. Its a nice place to try my 10th Planet stuff. The lower belts have no idea what Im doing. Im waiting to see how the higher belts react. They come through regularly. I hope they let me tape grapple sessions to post on here

Renato Leranja would be proud:D

the only gi i have is a tkd one, i think it would rip in a bjj match

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhh

I just trained w/ da Gi less then 30 minutes ago :)

I always feel like Im bragging with this story, well yeah I guess I am, anyway, The way I popped my gi cherry was in a tournament. I borrowed my friends gi and blue and won, then the second time I won the blue at naga. This is how I got my blue. Now I regularly train gi.

Now this is something I never thought I would say. Training gi helped my nogi. Only under the condition that I only use my nogi techs. Feels like I can just peel right through transitions when the gi comes off, making me more fluid and explosive from having done the tech under resistance. Make sense?

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Now this is something I never thought I would say. Training gi helped my nogi. Only under the condition that I only use my nogi techs. Feels like I can just peel right through transitions when the gi comes off, making me more fluid and explosive from having done the tech under resistance. Make sense?

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Perfect sense.

Thanks Jon, I take it you have noticed this as well?

I have never trained I'm a gi. I never liked the idea when I started training. Now I'm about 10 months deep into training and gi sounds interesting to try. I might have to try it this fall when I attend college. I think it would help my nogi game as said above. There's only one thing I'm still not liking about gi: collar chokes. I'm thinking that it would get annoying get choked by collar all the time.

Just started training in the Gi for the past 4 months and now I train 5x a week with the Gi and 2x NoGi. I actually love training with the Gi and I have noticed my NoGi skyrocketing rather than getting worse.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

I always feel like Im bragging with this story, well yeah I guess I am, anyway, The way I popped my gi cherry was in a tournament. I borrowed my friends gi and blue and won, then the second time I won the blue at naga. This is how I got my blue. Now I regularly train gi.

Now this is something I never thought I would say. Training gi helped my nogi. Only under the condition that I only use my nogi techs. Feels like I can just peel right through transitions when the gi comes off, making me more fluid and explosive from having done the tech under resistance. Make sense?

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I thought I would where a gi the first time from wanting more grapple matches at tournaments.

Heres what I noticed so far. Its hard to do some techniques when they have a gi on. Darces are annoying because of the extra inch or 2 the gi causes you have to go. Had to keep switching to Japanese Necktie.

Truthfully, Im not sure If I can Handle more than 2 monthes there with only fridays being the no-gi days. for now its awesome. Im getting good fundamental bjj stuff my first gi coach never showed me because he hated me, since I whore a mma school shirt(I got for free) instead of his to a Naga years ago. I didnt ever even use his techniques. I just liked grappling with a black belt. He never said why he was mad. He just wouldnt say hello or grapple with me anymore. Plus they didnt want anybody cross-training with other schools like a cult or something. Huge gym red flag for me. I had to dip outta there. Had to find out what his problem was from someone else a year later.

My gi experience is pretty much the same as Bobby's. I bought a gi at a NAGA and since I am in the expert no-gi division I had to be in expert gi. So never training I competed and won 2nd in expert. I was shocked. Then I competed against blue belts in another tourny and won first. I was blown away. The gi makes RG so much tighter lol. I still never train gi. ;)

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Originally Posted by Tyler Woolsey

My gi experience is pretty much the same as Bobby's. I bought a gi at a NAGA and since I am in the expert no-gi division I had to be in expert gi. So never training I competed and won 2nd in expert. I was shocked. Then I competed against blue belts in another tourny and won first. I was blown away. The gi makes RG so much tighter lol. I still never train gi. ;)

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Renato said something on facebook about a Miami open coming up. I might be right there with you guys being tryin to do Rubber Guard in a gi

I trained in a "hot box" for about 2 years, but got in the gi for the first time a few months ago. Got choked a lot with the gi. The control is crazy. However, they had trouble with my lockdown, double bagger, and even got a couple blue belts in the twister.

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Originally Posted by Sean Marshall

I cant be the only one. No-gi since Oct. 2005. Been to gi classes but never worn a gi once. My no-gi gym is an hour and 45 minutes away. Renato Tavares affiliate 10 minutes from my house and the gi is mandatory. Checked out the teaching and they actually stress not using grips while passing and other stuff during training. Sucks that they're probably not gonna like me doing 50/50 guard and leg locks. Its a nice place to try my 10th Planet stuff. The lower belts have no idea what Im doing. Im waiting to see how the higher belts react. They come through regularly. I hope they let me tape grapple sessions to post on here

Renato Leranja would be proud:D

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They probably would frown on a guy showing up and slapping on leg locks left and right, because of the high risk of injury and the fact that the classes you are showing up to have a lot of low level guys in it. Lots of those moves are illegal in IBJJF comp for that level so I'm sure they aren't teaching it to them. They shouldn't have any issue with 50/50 though.

I gotta say, this sounds like the start of a disaster. A guy with 5-6 years of BJJ experience goes to a local school to prove that that the style they train (with Gi), is bullshit. So he goes and beats up a bunch of guys that are low level new guys who don't even know what he's doing to them.

After beating up the newbies, he wants to tape his sessions with the more experience belts so he can post the vids on the internet.

I see a huge helping of humble pie in your future.

I would be shocked, absolutely floored, if you were able to enter the IBJJF Miami Open and win the Blue Belt gi division for your age/weight without ever training in the gi. There are hundreds of sweeps, submissions, controls, and defenses that are unique to gi playing, and if you don't know any, then you are at a huge disadvantage against someone that does.

White belts and Blue belts are still beginners at this sport. Many haven't learned how to use the gi, so in many ways they roll as if it was no-gi, except they will grab on more and slow the game. Legit Purple belts and higher, will have learned how to use the gi, so you'd have much more trouble with them. Blue belts that are getting close to Purple will also know how to use the gi well. I'm sure there will be experienced Blues at Miami, and that is why I don't think you'd be able to win the gi division (unless you train in the gi before hand). You'll have had more years experience than anyone else in the division most likely, so you'd probably be a better pure grappler than most of them, but the inexperience in gi will make a difference.

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Originally Posted by leach_jeffrey

They probably would frown on a guy showing up and slapping on leg locks left and right, because of the high risk of injury and the fact that the classes you are showing up to have a lot of low level guys in it. Lots of those moves are illegal in IBJJF comp for that level so I'm sure they aren't teaching it to them. They shouldn't have any issue with 50/50 though.

I gotta say, this sounds like the start of a disaster. A guy with 5-6 years of BJJ experience goes to a local school to prove that that the style they train (with Gi), is bullshit. So he goes and beats up a bunch of guys that are low level new guys who don't even know what he's doing to them.

After beating up the newbies, he wants to tape his sessions with the more experience belts so he can post the vids on the internet.

I see a huge helping of humble pie in your future.

I would be shocked, absolutely floored, if you were able to enter the IBJJF Miami Open and win the Blue Belt gi division for your age/weight without ever training in the gi. There are hundreds of sweeps, submissions, controls, and defenses that are unique to gi playing, and if you don't know any, then you are at a huge disadvantage against someone that does.

White belts and Blue belts are still beginners at this sport. Many haven't learned how to use the gi, so in many ways they roll as if it was no-gi, except they will grab on more and slow the game. Legit Purple belts and higher, will have learned how to use the gi, so you'd have much more trouble with them. Blue belts that are getting close to Purple will also know how to use the gi well. I'm sure there will be experienced Blues at Miami, and that is why I don't think you'd be able to win the gi division (unless you train in the gi before hand). You'll have had more years experience than anyone else in the division most likely, so you'd probably be a better pure grappler than most of them, but the inexperience in gi will make a difference.

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You greatly misunderstand me.

I only use leg locks for sweeps at traditional bbj schools except on browns and blacks, and purples if they want know them.

I only wanna post grapple matches with good purples, browns and blacks. I dont care if they wax my ass on video, I wanna post them so other people can see what happens and maybe learn something.

In tournaments there is no way they would allow me to go with anybody under purple belt.Grapple ref and judges can tell when your sandbagging bad and will move you to a harder division. Wont matter what my belt color is

I aslo want to start a hotbox at a gym but it seems disrespectful if students want to start training more 10pjj. I only try crap I havnt had time to drill yet on lower belts

If I wanted to post videos of me bullying people I would have done it a long time ago. If me getting destroyed on can help others get better, than the whole wil get better and hopefully the learning will come back to me

a lot of my posts probably look ego driven but I could care less what people think about me. If I had the money when I was younger I wouldve moved into the mountains years ago

The Gi is God. I been working grip breakers and sweeps its amazing just ask Eddie himself. He was black belt w/Gi before he made up the 10th planet system

Starting a hotbox in a gym is a slippery slope. I had to fly under the radar and have me and three other guys I train win tourneys before it could even be considered. And my gym owner is open minded and laid back as hell. Yet he is still from a traditional backround, so some stereotypes and misconceptions had to be exposed as such. Good luck and let your blood and sweat do the talking. Everyone respects that.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Starting a hotbox in a gym is a slippery slope. I had to fly under the radar and have me and three other guys I train win tourneys before it could even be considered. And my gym owner is open minded and laid back as hell. Yet he is still from a traditional backround, so some stereotypes and misconceptions had to be exposed as such. Good luck and let your blood and sweat do the talking. Everyone respects that.

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I really like that idea. The gym owner is pretty open minded. Renato is pretty open minded 2. Ive seen him messing around with Rubber Guard stuff in some old training videos.

You know I had beaten a sandbagger in my first tournament he was a blue belt carlson gracie (which I didnt know) joining the beginner class (6 month & under) in the no gi division but since he was used to gi techniques it was obvious in our roll sure it was hard but I got him with some of the easiest sweeps in nogi just shows nogi and gi are really different sports depending who you roll with felt good knowing I beat a blue belt tryng to get an "easy" medal lol

I just started in the gi a few weeks ago. I had only rolled no-gi before that.
I routinely get my ass kicked in the gi by everyone who has been training in it.
The gym I'm at now does gi and no-gi, and I can work so much better without
the gi since I'm used to it. I'm always getting my hands and feet stuck in bad
positions working with the gi, but it's getting better. Movement is so much easier
without the gi now after some work in it......plus triangles and arm bars are easier
to avoid without damn handles to grab onto.

All I can say is "Bow & Arrow Choke" thats the sweet spot. lol

I think you need to start a thread about your profile picture. for the record Goku would destroy him

ive worn a judo gi twice, thats it :)

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Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza

I think you need to start a thread about your profile picture. for the record Goku would destroy him

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goku would destroy all. fact.

Who do u think wud win between superman and goku?

http://www.dbzremastered.com/Downloa...Tournament.php

Goten Is more of a badass

Kid buu > ALL OF DBZ

i have love for nogi AND gi, but they are both totally different worlds, my true love is NOGI because you dont have to worry about those cheap ass GI CHOKES and GI is kinda cheap fighting its like having a piece of rope and it ties you down without being able to be mobile but i still love them both i learn both but nogi is my favorite

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Originally Posted by Stephen G.

I just started in the gi a few weeks ago. I had only rolled no-gi before that.
I routinely get my ass kicked in the gi by everyone who has been training in it.
The gym I'm at now does gi and no-gi, and I can work so much better without
the gi since I'm used to it. I'm always getting my hands and feet stuck in bad
positions working with the gi, but it's getting better. Movement is so much easier
without the gi now after some work in it......plus triangles and arm bars are easier
to avoid without damn handles to grab onto.

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you know ever since I started learning 10th planet and only know 10th planet I never go for traditional armbars since theres no grips I always use deep hook armbars or any croc from rubber guard since its clinching the opponent the majority of my armbars are from spiderweb since I always expect my opponent to defend by clasping his hands and I just either swim or dump him , Im not saying traditional armbars arent good just thanks the system Im usually that one step ahead when going against someone without knowledge of the system

Ive never put a gi on. they cost too much. Id rather spend 150$ on a custom mouthguard then a gi. plus I live in south texas where the weather is 95 degrees on the coolest part of the day. 2 days ago our heat index was 110!!!!! So No Gi for Me!! haha

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Originally Posted by Angel"EL DIABLO"Diaz

you know ever since I started learning 10th planet and only know 10th planet I never go for traditional armbars since theres no grips I always use deep hook armbars or any croc from rubber guard since its clinching the opponent the majority of my armbars are from spiderweb since I always expect my opponent to defend by clasping his hands and I just either swim or dump him , Im not saying traditional armbars arent good just thanks the system Im usually that one step ahead when going against someone without knowledge of the system

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just remember people who are schooled in the system AND traditional bjj will be one step ahead of you. it's good to have as many tools to your disposal as possible. well in my opinion for whatever that's worth.