help

how do i put a picture up lol

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Originally Posted by kevin nicasio

how do i put a picture up lol

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Are you a paying member?

OHHH lol no, i had a feeling thats what it was haha

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

You want an Avatar right? I just don't feel its worth paying for it to be honest. I'm on many forums in which I can talk shop and trade information with high level people for free. Its not like I get a T-shit, mug or window to say I'm a fanboy. Yah, no thanks.

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Your not paying to add an Avatar, you paying for access to the Mastering the System video library with hundreds of techniques. Jason and Eddie put alot of time and effort into the MTS videos, you can't complain for $4.99/mo when many of the other paid sites charge a hell of alot more. The forum extras are just an added bonus. You can also do all the things you just mentioned here for free as well.

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

In ten odds years of being on the Web MkI I would say I have downloaded and uploaded around £200k+ of material. I used to collect Vinyl, CD, DVD and it cost me a small fortune in the region of £22K over 18 years I ripped everything and uploaded it to the P2P networks in reasonable quality. If somebody wants to buy a CD they will, you can't beat WAV with Mp3.

I share because it gets the artist and art out there. I have been exposed to more music through P2P networks than from commercial channels. If you share something for free people will come. If you hide it behind a membership the best and most deserving people will not find it.

Do you want to make a small amount of money with memberships and keep the "system" exclusive? or do you want the "system" to be out there, used by people around the world who will make it famous? That is a rhetorical question.

That is just my take on it.

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Eddie has put out free material for years, and continues to do so. He has the right to make a few dollars for his intellectual knowledge and hard work as does anyone else.

$60/year is pocket change, if you can't see $60 of value in Eddie and Jason's hard work, debating you isn't going to change your mind. I'd gladly pay double or triple that, in support of their efforts.

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

Eddie makes plenty money without the need for this turnstyle on a web forum.

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Don't hate the player son!

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

The point is do you want to make "pocket change" or do you want those one in million special individuals to learn the system and become a Star in the sky to which 10th Planet can point to and say I we helped them get up there. Those stars will never see the system behind a cover charge. Eddie makes plenty money without the need for this turnstyle on a web forum.

Jon Jones is a great example of people who learned from watching clips on youtube.
Google is free and is arguable the most powerful tool anyone can use.



This is why everybody has a merchandise range. One can make more money from selling products which also advertises the Brand image and give a person something tangible for their support.

Example

Instead of a $5 membership fee, how about a T-shit with Iron on prints of monthly and updated images from 10th Planet gyms for $20 with P&P. They can be Photoshopped and sent in by anybody who wants to have their design on a T-Shirt. The forum can vote on the winning design or they can be randomly selected.

You can get T-Shits printed up in batches of a few dollars in the fashion district in down town LA for a few dollars per T-shit. You can use a direct print website so you don't have boxes of T-shirts laying around in a garage.

Now supporters gets twelve goofy T-shirts that he or she will be happy to wear around the year and will probably buy for other people to.

Membership fees vs Merchandise is a no brainier. Everybody is at it and making solid money from it.

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Caliphate Ishtar Allah, Not a bad idea. Why don't you start your own web site and run it that way? You can also have a bunch of ads on it too as well. In the mean time I'll stick around over here.

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

The point is do you want to make "pocket change" or do you want those one in million special individuals to learn the system and become a Star in the sky to which 10th Planet can point to and say I we helped them get up there. Those stars will never see the system behind a cover charge. Eddie makes plenty money without the need for this turnstyle on a web forum.

Jon Jones is a great example of people who learned from watching clips on youtube.
Google is free and is arguable the most powerful tool anyone can use.

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None one is getting left out in the rain for 4.99/mo., It they are they have far more important issues to concern themselves with than Jiu Jitsu.

Implying that Jon Jones success is due to youtube videos is weak, and will leave it at that.

No one is arguing that Google and Youtube isn't a valuable tool. Eddie still puts out free material as do I.

You don't have to like they way its run around here, you have the choice not to spend the money.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

None one is gettng left out in the rain for 4.99/mo., It they are they have far more important issues to concern themselves with than Jiu Jitsu.

You don't have to like they way its run around here, you have the choice not to spend the money.

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Well stated!

Cool idea but Chris is right, I would gladly pay more for the information I get from mts. Does 4.99 a month even scratch what it would cost to have him teach u in person? No, enough said.

Not worth it?!?!?!?!?!

Oooooh shit!!!!!!!!!
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Why do we keep interacting with trolls?

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

In ten odds years of being on the Web MkI I would say I have downloaded and uploaded around £200k+ of material. I used to collect Vinyl, CD, DVD and it cost me a small fortune in the region of £22K over 18 years I ripped everything and uploaded it to the P2P networks in reasonable quality. If somebody wants to buy a CD they will, you can't beat WAV with Mp3.

I share because it gets the artist and art out there. I have been exposed to more music through P2P networks than from commercial channels. If you share something for free people will come. If you hide it behind a membership the best and most deserving people will not find it.

Do you want to make a small amount of money with memberships and keep the "system" exclusive? or do you want the "system" to be out there, used by people around the world who will make it famous? That is a rhetorical question.

That is just my take on it.

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Sounds like you're a thief, plain and simple. For every one artist that gains "exposure" from "Sharing" (Theft), 1000's of others have to work shitty jobs to make ends meet because millions of dollars are robbed out of their pockets. Now, I can understand if the artist or company is already a multi million dollar entity, like watching streams of the UFC online or sharing some Beatles or Metallica tunes, but if the artist or company hasn't achieved that status yet, I personally think that's f'd up. Sure, Eddie does well for himself but he also deserves to make sure his family is taken care of as well. And what's offered, for $5 is a crazy value, less then you spend at McDonalds each week. The mentality that stealing intellectual property is ok is bullshit and veiling it under the guise that you're actually "helping" the owner is equally bullshit, when you are just being greedy and selfish yourself and trying to justify your actions as being morally acceptable.

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Originally Posted by Taylor Culbertson

Oooooh shit!!!!!!!!!
http://www.zebradetox.com/wp-content...ney-badger.jpg

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You get me...

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

Oh my goodness are you a twenty nine year old virgin boyscout?

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Eagle Scout, and I'm saving myself for love. But thank you for stalking me.

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Originally Posted by Caliphate Ishtar Allah

Your not taking into account how 90% of the world actual operates and functions. Internet access is wide spread and yes $5 is a lot of money in most countries. Your ethnocentrism is disheartening.



I didn't imply it. Jon Jones said it. He learned from Youtube videos. His words not mines. To say, I implying all his success was due to Youtube is disingenuous at best.




I have spent plenty money in 10th Planet as a member in the past.




Oh my goodness are you a twenty nine year old virgin boyscout?



You haven't researched your position at all have you? You have come to a knife fight with a little lolly pop. Perhaps the same one Sarah Palin used.





So its ok to "Steal" (Your words) from the rich but its not ok to "share" (My words) the talented artist work that deserves praise?

All language, all culture and knowledge is borrowed from some other people and place. You didn't invent a single word and here we are using them for free. Once a person creates a formula, sound, move or dance its fair game to copied by other humans and they will remix it. That is how culture and humanity evolved to this point and for what?

We do not own anything. All possessions and thoughts are Intrinsically Illusory and obstacle to knowing the true self.

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No one will take you seriously here if you result to insulting people why debating. Done with your childish tactics.
Again if you don't want to spend the money don't, no one is twisting your arm.

If you can afford a computer you can afford paying 5 bucks a month. Only explanation to why you wouldn't be able to afford something that cheap is if you live in Ethiopia, in which case you probably wouldn't be able to afford a computer, or you still live with your mom and she gives you a weekly allowance, cash only.

I spent more money on pokemon cards when I was 12.

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Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza

If you can afford a computer you can afford paying 5 bucks a month. Only explanation to why you wouldn't be able to afford something that cheap is if you live in Ethiopia, in which case you probably wouldn't be able to afford a computer, or you still live with your mom and she gives you a weekly allowance, cash only.

I spent more money on pokemon cards when I was 12.

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[QUOTE=Caliphate Ishtar Allah;88981]Let me understand your correctly here. You think only people in Ethiopia could not afford $5 a month? There are over 120 Million internet users in Africa.


Hmmm, 120 million internet users in Africa. Well how many of these 120 million users are in Ethiopia?

From the map it looks like Ethiopia and Utah are about tied.

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress...ternet_use.jpg

what have i started lol!

I'm pretty sure the guy in Ethiopia who is holding my 10 million and awaiting a fast reply could afford 4.99 if he wanted to.