The most fucked up thing I've seen so far in the occupy movement.

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10-27-2011, 08:53 PM
Isaiah Mendoza

The most fucked up thing I've seen so far in the occupy movement.

man... what the FUCK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLyU...layer_embedded
10-27-2011, 08:57 PM
J Grooms

Fuck!
10-27-2011, 09:29 PM
Taylor Culbertson

Fuck that shit... I am rolling with the cops on this one. So long hippies.
10-27-2011, 09:33 PM
Jonathan Wylie

What are the protesting in Oakland? Maybe they shot him in the face for being stupid. I could support it if that was the case.
10-27-2011, 09:39 PM
Taylor Culbertson

They shot him for being a fucking hippie. You can only riot in Oakland. There is no protesting.
10-27-2011, 09:39 PM
Isaiah Mendoza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

What are the protesting in Oakland? Maybe they shot him in the face for being stupid. I could support it if that was the case.

he's a marine, two time former iraq war vet. he's unconscious in critical condition in the hospital. That's a fucked up thing to say, sounds straight up evil.
10-27-2011, 09:40 PM
Danny Stolfi

That is fucked up. And when others go to help the man down they throw more at them. Police are here to protect our citizens, not harm them.
10-27-2011, 09:43 PM
Taylor Culbertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stolfi

That is fucked up. And when others go to help the man down they throw more at them. Police are here to protect our citizens, not harm them.

Clearly you didn't get invited to the meeting.
10-27-2011, 09:50 PM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza

he's a marine, two time former iraq war vet. he's unconscious in critical condition in the hospital. That's a fucked up thing to say, sounds straight up evil.

source?
10-27-2011, 09:50 PM
Jonathan Wylie

http://www.ktvu.com/video/29587714/index.html
This is what I call a fair warning.
10-27-2011, 09:59 PM
Griffin Lambert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

http://www.ktvu.com/video/29587714/index.html
This is what I call a fair warning.

Yeah it was but it wasn't very loud. You wouldn't be able to hear that with people chanting around you.
10-27-2011, 10:03 PM
Isaiah Mendoza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

http://www.ktvu.com/video/29587714/index.html
This is what I call a fair warning.

they threw a flash grenade into a crowd of people trying to help a critically wounded man. I'm shaking my head right now...

google scott olsen. he's starting to talk again and is going into brain surgery.
10-27-2011, 10:04 PM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin Lambert

Yeah it was but it wasn't very loud. You wouldn't be able to hear that with people chanting around you.

Do you really believe that guy did hear the warning? Not to mention the line of cops in fucking riot gear that would have been my cue to get the fuck out right there.
10-27-2011, 10:06 PM
Jonathan Wylie

The camera mic picked it up and judging from the quality of the footage it wasn't a high quality camera.
10-27-2011, 10:07 PM
Taylor Culbertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

http://www.ktvu.com/video/29587714/index.html
This is what I call a fair warning.

I am with Jon. Those fuckers were in the street! Acting all stupid. Holding signs. I bet some were queer too!
10-27-2011, 10:11 PM
Jonathan Wylie

http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-war-vet-i...210220379.html
They are not even sure what hit him in the head protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the cops and he could have easily been knocked down and hit his head when people were running.
10-27-2011, 10:14 PM
Taylor Culbertson

I think he jumped head first into the street like a typical attention whore.
10-27-2011, 10:18 PM
Isaiah Mendoza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-war-vet-i...210220379.html
They are not even sure what hit him in the head protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the cops and he could have easily been knocked down and hit his head when people were running.

dude they threw a fucking flashbang into a crowd of people trying to help an injured man. Before that you see an explosion next to the guy then he falls over. And you're trying to say he got hit with a rock? Seriously?

jesus christ.
10-27-2011, 10:22 PM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza

dude they threw a fucking flashbang into a crowd of people trying to help an injured man. Before that you see an explosion next to the guy then he falls over. And you're trying to say he got hit with a rock? Seriously?

jesus christ.

Why didn't any of those people get a head injury? I wonder how many of those people were medically trained? The way all those people rushed the guy they looked like more of a threat to him than a help.
10-27-2011, 10:23 PM
Jonathan Wylie

Can anybody tell me what they are protesting in Oakland?
10-27-2011, 10:27 PM
Isaiah Mendoza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Why didn't any of those people get a head injury? I wonder how many of those people were medically trained? The way all those people rushed the guy they looked like more of a threat to him than a help.

you've got to be fucking kidding me.
10-27-2011, 10:27 PM
Taylor Culbertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Why didn't any of those people get a head injury? I wonder how many of those people were medically trained? The way all those people rushed the guy they looked like more of a threat to him than a help.

I agree. It is clear the cop was protecting the guy that got flashbanged in the face by flashbanging him in the face again.
10-27-2011, 10:29 PM
Sean Winnik

Okay let's all be reasonable. Regardless of what hurt this guy, the cops should never have thrown a SECOND flashbang directly next to an already injured person (head trauma no less). Also let's talk about this "fair warning thing;" just because someone lets you know that they are about to assault you (which is what this would be if the cops weren't legally aloud to do basically whatever they want) does not mean that it is justified to do it. And honestly blaming the protesters for pushing the cops to do this is blaming the victim in such an obvious way. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" -Benjamin Franklin. Right now these people are trying to hold on to what liberty they have left. The protesters are willing to be beaten by cops and pepper sprayed, and gassed because it is not about individual safety but about a skewed economic and political atmosphere that is harming people throughout this country (and the world) regardless of whether we are democrats or republicans or hippies or vets or some combination of all of the above.
10-27-2011, 10:34 PM
Taylor Culbertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Winnik

Okay let's all be reasonable. Regardless of what hurt this guy, the cops should never have thrown a SECOND flashbang directly next to an already injured person (head trauma no less). Also let's talk about this "fair warning thing;" just because someone lets you know that they are about to assault you (which is what this would be if the cops weren't legally aloud to do basically whatever they want) does not mean that it is justified to do it. And honestly blaming the protesters for pushing the cops to do this is blaming the victim in such an obvious way. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" -Benjamin Franklin. Right now these people are trying to hold on to what liberty they have left. The protesters are willing to be beaten by cops and pepper sprayed, and gassed because it is not about individual safety but about a skewed economic and political atmosphere that is harming people throughout this country (and the world) regardless of whether we are democrats or republicans or hippies or vets or some combination of all of the above.

I see your appeal to authority and raise you a red herring.

http://nj-guido.com/wp-content/uploa...nother-man.jpg
10-27-2011, 10:36 PM
Jonathan Wylie

You guys are so right those cops are assholes! Throw 'em jail.
10-27-2011, 10:36 PM
Stone

This was the first thing I thought of:
http://theworstpageintheuniverse.com...low_small1.jpg

But seriously:
http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/...essage_to_cops
10-27-2011, 10:41 PM
Jack LaBarge

The last place I would ever protest would be Oakland! I wouldn't visit a family member if they lived in Oakland. I say build a fence around Oakland and let all these fuckers take (keep) their city.
10-27-2011, 10:54 PM
Sean Winnik

Great. What could have been an interesting conversation is no a waste of a thread.
10-27-2011, 10:58 PM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Winnik

Great. What could have been an interesting conversation is no a waste of a thread.

I'm laughing at you.
10-27-2011, 11:09 PM
Taylor Culbertson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Winnik

Great. What could have been an interesting conversation is no a waste of a thread.

dude... we solved it.. Just gather the hippies up like my boy said and build a fence around them... *cough* fema camp *cough*
10-27-2011, 11:19 PM
Jonathan Wylie

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5393840_n.jpg
10-27-2011, 11:38 PM
Griffin Lambert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Do you really believe that guy did hear the warning? Not to mention the line of cops in fucking riot gear that would have been my cue to get the fuck out right there.

You're right, the line of cops with riot gear is pretty self explanatory.
10-28-2011, 12:05 AM
Sean Winnik

obviously most of us here are trolling, i'm just saying we all could have learned something. me included.
10-28-2011, 05:26 AM
David Rosado

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza

he's a marine, two time former iraq war vet. he's unconscious in critical condition in the hospital. That's a fucked up thing to say, sounds straight up evil.

Culbertson is just trolling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Stolfi

That is fucked up. And when others go to help the man down they throw more at them. Police are here to protect our citizens, not harm them.

Not anymore bro. They're hired muscle now. They're paid to protect the interests of those with more money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin Lambert

Yeah it was but it wasn't very loud. You wouldn't be able to hear that with people chanting around you.

From what I heard from a guy who's at the NY occupy, you can't hear the cops. Like you hear what sounds like the megaphone, but you don't really hear what they're saying. And cops dressed in riot gear is not a warning. It's a threat. But these people are standing up for our rights. This has to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor Culbertson

I agree. It is clear the cop was protecting the guy that got flashbanged in the face by flashbanging him in the face again.

LOL. Great post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Winnik

Okay let's all be reasonable. Regardless of what hurt this guy, the cops should never have thrown a SECOND flashbang directly next to an already injured person (head trauma no less). Also let's talk about this "fair warning thing;" just because someone lets you know that they are about to assault you (which is what this would be if the cops weren't legally aloud to do basically whatever they want) does not mean that it is justified to do it. And honestly blaming the protesters for pushing the cops to do this is blaming the victim in such an obvious way. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" -Benjamin Franklin. Right now these people are trying to hold on to what liberty they have left. The protesters are willing to be beaten by cops and pepper sprayed, and gassed because it is not about individual safety but about a skewed economic and political atmosphere that is harming people throughout this country (and the world) regardless of whether we are democrats or republicans or hippies or vets or some combination of all of the above.

Great post again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

You guys are so right those cops are assholes! Throw 'em jail.

They are. We have the right to protest. Why are we being shot with rubber bullets, flashbanged, maced, and beaten? Cops should just be making sure no one's getting hurt and no crimes are being committed. They shouldn't be using intimidation and violence. They should be looking at us as fellow citizens, not enemies.
10-28-2011, 06:09 AM
Ron Almeida

i have protested many times before and even took my kids...

but every protest i went to never required police to come in and remove us...

you have a right to protest...

but, you dont have a right to occupy something that does not belong to you...

once you started to occupy the streets and parks you now are infringing on everyone elses rights...

this is all just union organized bs, the same people who voted for the bailouts...
10-28-2011, 06:17 AM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Almeida

i have protested many times before and even took my kids...

but every protest i went to never required police to come in and remove us...

you have a right to protest...

but, you dont have a right to occupy something that does not belong to you...

once you started to occupy the streets and parks you now are infringing on everyone elses rights...

this is all just union organized bs, the same people who voted for the bailouts...

Holly Shit! there is intelligent life on this forum. So Ron what your saying is if you were a business owner in the area you wouldn't want these people pissing and shitting in the streets and impeding traffic driving away costumers or clients.
10-28-2011, 06:25 AM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Rosado

From what I heard from a guy who's at the NY occupy, you can't hear the cops. Like you hear what sounds like the megaphone, but you don't really hear what they're saying. And cops dressed in riot gear is not a warning. It's a threat. But these people are standing up for our rights. This has to happen.

Thank you for taking your highly insightful second hand knowledge of what happened in NY and applying it to what happened on the other side of the country.
10-28-2011, 06:27 AM
Ron Almeida

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Holly Shit! there is intelligent life on this forum. So Ron what your saying is if you were a business owner in the area you wouldn't want these people pissing and shitting in the streets and impeding traffic driving away costumers or clients.

Thats what I am saying...
10-28-2011, 06:27 AM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Rosado

They are. We have the right to protest. Why are we being shot with rubber bullets, flashbanged, maced, and beaten? Cops should just be making sure no one's getting hurt and no crimes are being committed. They shouldn't be using intimidation and violence. They should be looking at us as fellow citizens, not enemies.

I'm sorry to hear these things happened to you.
10-28-2011, 06:35 AM
Ron Almeida

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Rosado

They are. We have the right to protest. Why are we being shot with rubber bullets, flashbanged, maced, and beaten? Cops should just be making sure no one's getting hurt and no crimes are being committed. They shouldn't be using intimidation and violence. They should be looking at us as fellow citizens, not enemies.

Because of your disrespect of others and authority...

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