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Hey guys this is a technique that we think has never been done before and so we named it "The Spaghetti Wrangler" for lack of a better name. It works very well in the given scenario. I'm recording and Henry Martinez our head instructor is showing the technique. Let us know what you think...
I know what's happening to me later (since I currently lack the ability to do it myself)
Yeah I guess it is more of an advanced technique. The tricky part is sitting up after you trap the arm. Try it. It might help you escape North South someday...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter
At first I got real excited because I thought you were going to do a shoulder lock from north south top that I use all the time. The judo name is ude garuma I think. Ever use it?
Nice flexibility move. Now to try in the gym next time i'm in NS
Ude garami I didn't know it by that name but I looked it up and I do know the technique. Are you referring to trapping the arm when the guy on bottom turns on his side?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter
Yeah man check it out and let us know what you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calan Ownhouse
Maybe... The way I do it is just based on them clasping their hands behind my back. I hug one of their elbows like I'm trying to do a heel hook on it as I pass my other side leg to that side into what looks like judo side control with their arm stuck to my body. Then I scoot just a bit towards their legs and throw my near side leg between their legs, cross my feet underneath, and rotate my body backwards. Ends up looking like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruben Rivera
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...story/UDE2.png
Same technique?
Crazy. No it isn't the same. I've never done tried that. I will try it today. Can you post a video maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter
I'll shoot one tonight, on the condition that you post one back with your purple belt awesomeness doing it!
I will say watch it when you first adjust your leg. If you stay there too long you'll get bucked. It's a VERY sneaky move though. I've had a ton of success with it. I got it from Karo Parysian's Judo for MMA book.
Yeah man send me a vid and we'll try it out tonight after class and we'll post a vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ZX2e2zTOQ
Found someone better than me to model it.
Ude Garami is Japanese and translates as arm entanglement, its the generic term for all bent arm locks like the kimura, americana, key locks, etc.
Chris, I'd love to just follow you around all day and see how much I could learn.
I bet I've checked this thread every ten minutes, dying to see your version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruben Rivera
Ive got a question just out of curiosity.. Im not sure how much youve played around with this move yet.. but how often does the person on top spin around into side control when going for this move? For instance at 0:33 when you bring both arms to the same side of his body.. what stops him from spinning the other direction until landing in side control/cradle? Or is this one of those moves where you have to just sit up and grab the far shoulder as quick as possible before that happens? Either way.. worst case scenario.. you've at least got the sub attempt in there.. and if you dont get it youre just working to escape side.. But I was just wondering if this was working a decent percentage of the time.
Sorry about the delay man. I'll record the video upload it to Youtube tonight and it should be up by tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter
I read that same definition when I looked ude garami so I thought it was a kimura or americana he was referring to. It's cool to have you on my thread Chris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Chronic_jiujitsu
Video response is coming. Probably won't be up till tomorrow because it takes Youtube a bit to process the video. Nice questions though. Any other questions please ask.
Henry J. Martinez
PFI
Thanks bro!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruben Rivera
http://youtu.be/tZ8IBDOpqmA
Alright guys so hopefully this video answers some questions about the spaghetti wrangler. If you have any more questions let us know!
Thanks! This is what I've been trying to do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ZX2e2zTOQ&feature=g-upl
Zog: any pointers?
reverse omoplata
Not quite. Herzog has the reverse omoplata in one of his videos, but I couldn't find it. Anybody got the link handy?Quote:
Originally Posted by The kza
What if he has a knife?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Hoback
Nate Tron,
If he has a knife then you eat the knife and Wrangle the SOB!!!!
Ok. Good to know. BTW, did you see your shout out Little John gave you on the TUF youtube blog after he won the finale tonight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry J. Martinez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOAO9QRjZIQuote:
Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter
Sorry about the long wait. Here it is but I have to say that I just can't seem to make it work as a high percentage finish. I don't feel that I could finish an experienced guys shoulder with it but maybe I'm just missing something?
Cool response, bro. What I do different from what you were doing is:
1. Assuming you go to your right like that, leave your left elbow on his side THE WHOLE TIME, until your throw your leg between his legs. I'll pinch down with my elbow and keep my hand by their hip to slow the spin down. I'll also put a little more of my weight on the side I'm attacking. Not a huge shift, just a little. That turns them a little and makes it a harder to turn away because it makes him face you. Just make sure you're hugging that arm snug!
2. Again, when you hook the arm, only hook with one hand until the very end, after you've thrown your leg over.
3. I can usually break the grip when I take the baby step to get my hips closer to theirs after I've come to the judo side control looking position. I try to turn their elbow to the sky a little bit and I'll rotate my torso slightly towards them, using the width of my body to break the grip. If they're super strong and can hold on through that, you can finish anyway at the very end with their hands still clasped.
4. You threw your far side leg between theirs. It should be the near side. Once you've gotten your leg over, make your feet pray and THEN double up on the arms.
I really appreciate you giving it a shot. I've pulled it off on a couple of blue belts, one was actually a champ for some MMA promotion down in TN, but that's the highest rank I've gotten with it. I've only rolled with a purple belt once and he smoked my head the whole time, so I never got to try for ANY subs!!!
Let me know if those adjustments work for you. This move works for me all the time, but then again I'm not exactly swimming with sharks.