Impressed with Michael Bisping

I think he fought a very smart match. When mounted in round 1, he did not seem to panic, overly expose his elbows, or rush the escape. He stayed out of Miller's guard until Miller's fatigue lowered his submission threats. He chose to stay on top of a turtled Miller and strike rather than attempt to put hooks in for a choke.

In my world, that qualifies as a smart match against a BJJ black belt.

As a pure jiu jitsu guy, what would you do against Bisping?

Other thoughts from the fights on Spike last night:
Tony Ferguson: rolling omoplata from a sprawl!! Did not finish but wow, excited to see him fight again.
Diego Brandao: Awesome Granby rolls and submission from the bottom. Excited to see him fight again.

-Doug

I wasn't so much impressed with Bisping as UNimpressed with Miller (and I am a huge Miller fan)... I have to give Bisping the credit but it really seemed like Miller gassed very very quickly leading to a barrage of Aoki-esque tactics (and I am an Aoki fan too)... I half expected Miller to start butt scooting around the octagon to try and grab a leg. Miller unfortunately had nothing for Bisping on the feet, those overhand rights just weren't working so I'm not sure why Miller kept relying on them. He just seemed so gassed so even his JJ game was ineffective at the end.

Tony Ferguson did a great job, Yves Edwards is no joke. Diego is a BEAST and the fight with Bermudez IMO was the best on the card. Bermudez fought a great fight too. I remember at the time I was thinking of that recent interview with Rickson where he said that BJJ had lost most of its effectiveness in modern MMA and then BAM! Diego got the armbar. That was pretty sweet!

Yea I saw the Melendez-Aoki massacre I believe you are referring to. I think BJJ has yet to re-explode in the UFC. Once we see guys who play that Marcelo-style game where you can FAIL a wrestling shot and transition right into deep half, lockdown, X-gaurd, butterfly/spider, and 1-legged X, wow...

I think we have a lot to look forward to =).

Still, Bisping makes for a tough matchup for any BJJ guy I think, he has not been submitted in the UFC. I think you'd have to omoplata him =)

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Originally Posted by OmyPlata

Still, Bisping makes for a tough matchup for any BJJ guy I think, he has not been submitted in the UFC. I think you'd have to omoplata him =)

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I'd like to see him take on Palhares or Maia

I wasn't impressed with douchebag Bisping. Miller sucked!!! Plain & simple. Miller honestly probably doesn't deserve to fight in the UFC again.

yea wtf miller

That leg-wrapping mount Miller had in the 1st round seemed like an amazing idea, but perhaps he should have spent more time looking for head and arm control and moving to S-Mount.

It was tough to watch... Miller CAN fight and he's shown it in the past... I didn't get the Rocky Balboa-type tactics he almost immediately resorted to when his takedowns got stuffed. Bisping OTOH worked his gameplan well. I do have a hard time watching Dana openly remark on possibly cutting Miller after one crappy fight when guys like Dan Hardy are around after 4 consecutive losses, and certainly there have been other fighters with losses after 10-8 rounds, etc. No doubt that Mayhem seriously needs to go back to the drawing board though.

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Originally Posted by OmyPlata

That leg-wrapping mount Miller had in the 1st round seemed like an amazing idea, but perhaps he should have spent more time looking for head and arm control and moving to S-Mount.

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How was he suppose to transition to S mount with Bisping sitting up with his back to the cage?

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

How was he suppose to transition to S mount with Bisping sitting up with his back to the cage?

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Well, I guess with the more standard mount, he could look to scoop an elbow and move his knee up, then establish head and arm control, then move to S-Mount.

It looked like miller just was competing in an amateur fight. His boxing technique was just horrible (can be blamed on him gassing out). But that brings me to my next point... how do you knowingly enter a 5 round fight with a gas tank of about 6.5 minutes? I always liked watching miller fight, especially when he was younger, but his "swagger" or whatever you want to call it, just made him look unprofessional, amateurish, and unknowledgeable about the entire sport.

Broke my heart to see Miller fade after the first, and all on cardio. That wasnt him in that ring, but i wish I knew why.

Bisping is a shithead, and DEFINITELY got a lecture from Dana, otherwise he wouldn't have flipped the switch like he did after the fight and changed his whole attitude to that of respect. He told all the fans at the weigh in to go fuck themselves, not smart.

Miller's body looks like it's diminishing, he needs to go on a good bodybuilding program. Technique didn't look great either, I wonder if he's just been outta the gym for a long time. I'd love to see him hook up with 10th Planet. Bisping never impresses me, I used to like him way back when he was in TUF but since then he's exposed himself as a douche. He almost kicked Miller in the fucking head while Miller was on the ground (he missed). At the end of the fight Rogan said he could face Anderson Silva soon and that gave me a huge chuckle lol

I was wondering if perhaps Miller had trouble cutting weight. He looked a LOT smaller than he was on TUF.

I like the fact that Bisping said he wouldn't be any match for Silva right now. But otherwise, like others have said, he wasn't impressive in the fight.

I wasn't impressed with Bisping. He does what he does. Tire you out until you stop defending. But once again, he can't KO anyone. I was disappointed in Miller's plan of attack and gas tank.


Diego had FOTN for sure though. In my opinion at least.

Mayhem could've finished it in the first round with a flurry of elbows while he had Bisbing pressed against the cage, it wouldve been perfect. I didn't understand why he was just laying there, like he was already needing to recover. Something definitely went wrong during camp or his nerves got the better of him as he walked into that cage because it definitely was not the same Mayhem that fought Jake Shields. Let him get his shit together, put together a good, JJ emphasized game plan and see what a focused Mayhem can pull off, I think he's very talented, just too distracted that night.

Personal feelings on Bisping are irrelivent. Fact is you have to be a bad sob to beat him. He's super tough.

Yeah, that wasnt Miller.

As soon as I saw Miller walk out, I knew the night wasn't going to go well. Watch it again, he looks like a nervous wreck.

I really, really wanted Bisping to lose. I think I'm still holding his "win" over Hammil against him.

I have followed Miller's entire career and I am certain that something went wrong as he was getting ready for the fight. Illness, injury, something. He is way better than what he showed last night and usually has pretty good cardio. One thing that could have happen is that he may have taken Bisping not seriously, which is a stupid idea since eventhough Bisping is not a killer like some other guys, he is a very hard guy to beat. It takes something similar to DHRH (Dan Henderson's Right Hand) to finish the guy off.

i agree he is definately better than what he showed in this performance but overall he is still pretty overrated i mean his standup isnt the best neither are his takedowns and his jits is good but i think he would lose against most of the better middleweights in the ufc

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Originally Posted by OmyPlata

Yea I saw the Melendez-Aoki massacre I believe you are referring to. I think BJJ has yet to re-explode in the UFC. Once we see guys who play that Marcelo-style game where you can FAIL a wrestling shot and transition right into deep half, lockdown, X-gaurd, butterfly/spider, and 1-legged X, wow...

I think we have a lot to look forward to =).

Still, Bisping makes for a tough matchup for any BJJ guy I think, he has not been submitted in the UFC. I think you'd have to omoplata him =)

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at least aoki didnt gas though. i think miller just had an adrenaline dump and was way too nervous for his UFC return. Not looking good when Dana says "im not sure" if he will be back

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Originally Posted by Kepa Tairua

I was wondering if perhaps Miller had trouble cutting weight. He looked a LOT smaller than he was on TUF.

I like the fact that Bisping said he wouldn't be any match for Silva right now. But otherwise, like others have said, he wasn't impressive in the fight.

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he didn't cut all that much only 5 pounds, you can watch his fight journal on mma fighting for the fight. theres 3 episodes, heres the one where he cuts. http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/12/0...ournal-part-3/ he looks pretty good though. must have been sick or just pure nerves, but i agree in general hes just really average and not as good as people think

Bisping did well in the first round to keep himself safe on the ground, but Miller seriously let himself down after. His stand up just isn't good enough for MMA.

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Originally Posted by Compella

Mayhem could've finished it in the first round with a flurry of elbows while he had Bisbing pressed against the cage, it wouldve been perfect. I didn't understand why he was just laying there, like he was already needing to recover. Something definitely went wrong during camp or his nerves got the better of him as he walked into that cage because it definitely was not the same Mayhem that fought Jake Shields. Let him get his shit together, put together a good, JJ emphasized game plan and see what a focused Mayhem can pull off, I think he's very talented, just too distracted that night.

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Do you like or ever utilize that mount he was using? I have yet to.

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Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter

I'd like to see him take on Palhares or Maia

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I got my wish!!!

Thats the worst I every seen Mayhems hands idk maybe UFC jitters idk he didn't look normal. Ian Mayhem fan for years!

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Originally Posted by DBK

he didn't cut all that much only 5 pounds, you can watch his fight journal on mma fighting for the fight. theres 3 episodes, heres the one where he cuts. http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/12/0...ournal-part-3/ he looks pretty good though. must have been sick or just pure nerves, but i agree in general hes just really average and not as good as people think

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are you kidding me? he went the distance with jacare and jake sheilds, arguably two of the best grapplers in mma. miller's a great fighter. He had a bad night. It happens to everyone.