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When people asked me why I did not like Jon Jones as a person although I admire him as a fighter, I could not give them a solid reason. I kept on saying that I always felt like he was not being sincere with anything he says, that his interviews were fake and he was trying to exert a lot of control to stop his cocky attitude to seep thru.
Well finally this confirms at least some of my 6th instinct about him.
http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publ...le_11689.shtml
if your a dick your a dick if ya good ya good no need to play the middle. like em as a fighter but is obviously a dick person. btw he was just mad he got punched. lol
Oh shut the fuck up people. SMH. People keep grasping at straws to hate on this kid. This proves nothing other than the fact that Greg Jackson is the dick. Jones doesn't have to go check on his opponent. That doesn't make him a better or worse person. IMO I kinda feel like it's adding insult to injury. JACKSON is the one who pulled the phony move. Jones is a 24 year old kid. Jackson's his coach. I'm 29 and if my coach told me to go do that, i'd go do that because I respect my coach. Jones did nothing wrong. The real dick is Jackson. Stop it.
Get over your bias and accept that the kid is just a kid.
Yup Jones was just listening to his coach. Coach could have just said go check on him...
"win some fans" was not needed IMO.
Jon Jones is legit. Younster has game.
Jon also might not have been thinking straight "being punched in the face" its hard to come out of war mode in 5 mins. IMP I'am scan sure MMA guys can relate, thats what your corners for!
whatevers whatever dudes if i was in jones' shoes when greg was yelling for him he prob. would've got a doo doo face from me like what the fuck. He might of got pissed i might of got a talken to from the coach but jackson seem to worry about "the image" and not the moment. for jones to fall in line doesn't show respect it shows he's obediance ( sorry i type like an ape) Jones had a bit of a battle last night. and you could tell his happiness when he let machida drop. those eyes where cold as hell. he was pissed and didn't want to check on machida. and he didn't have to.
The mob is fickle and must be catered to. Jackson is not naive and knows this. Frank Mir's nonchalance about Nog's situation was comical as hell as well. Fighters know the stakes and shit happens. You gotta understand how its real easy to stop caring about someones immediate well being after he punches you in the face as hard as he can. And as a coach/mentor and friend you really dont care about anything but your guy comin out victorious and healthy.
First of all reading is always your friend. Nobody here is arguing that if he is legit, or can take a punch or whatever. This video is ONE of MANY things that are said and done by Jones and his management to hide his tru personality in order to make him look caring, down to earth and a peoples person. I have nothing against people with bad personalities. I respect Bisping or Lesnar way more than Jones. I think he should just let it go and be the cocky dick that he really is.
i agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamGunter
Haha....you guys are being really ignorant about the whole thing.
His TRUE personality? Man, NONE of these guys show their TRUE
personality on TV. It's entertainment, that's the business.
You can't know his "true" personality unless you know him personally.
Is this your "true" personality when you post here? Or do you think
about what other people may interpret from what you say? Of course
you do. When the light is shown on you, you project an image, every
motherfucker on the planet does this, get over it. Not even to be flat
out rude...but honestly, this kind of thread makes me laugh my ass off
at someone believing that what they're watching isn't directly catered
to the viewer, whether it be from the fighter, the corner, or the production
company.
Nowhere does Jones say that he DOESN'T hate puppies, kittens, rainbows, video games, and pizza, hence he totally COULD hate those things making him a total douchebag right? I hate Jones now too!
No just kidding, but yeah, people really do draw at straws to hate on Jones. I've heard stuff like "he wouldn't be so good if he didn't have a long reach," "he wouldn't be so good if he wasn't so athletic," "he wouldn't be so good if he faced the champions during their heyday."
Exactly, like Eddie hating on the Gracies.... in real life he talks highly of themQuote:
Originally Posted by StephenG
wow. i read about this on sherdog but didnt know there was a video.
Peep that post 140 press conference
Jones is a cocky kid. Oh well. Machida is my boy and I hate what happened to him but Jones beat him. Fair n square. Whether he is an ass or not doesn't matter cuz a w is a w. From a martial artists stand point I hate to say that. But in the sport of mma it really only comes down to that. Jackson was just trying to help him. If u watch the replay, Jones just dropped him n walked away like yup, that's right. Cocky as shit. But still a win.
Yeah, he probably should have gently backed off, and rubbed Machida'sQuote:
Originally Posted by sean applegate
neck for him.....you know, like all the other non cocky fighters do.
Jones is a beast. I laughed when he just dropped Machida and walked away. If jones squat over Machida a took a dump on his chest id still have more respect for him than I do for GSP and his humble 25 min jabathon style. At least jones comes to fight
I gotta be honest... when I first clicked the link there was an ad for the planet of the apes movie and I thought you were being racist hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyK5
On a side note, the old white boys that now praise Mohammed Ali, all HATED young Cassius in the beginning of his career too. They just can't wrap their head around the fact that different cultures have different rules. And yes, I understand that some black people will say ignorantly, "that's not *my* culture", but Black culture doesn't have just one face.
Just my two..
jon jones is a great fighter but he is cocky. His cocky attitude is stupid. Chael's is awesome. Therefore anything less than Chael is dogshit.
end of argument.
What he did is no different than what a ton of other guys do. KO or choke. I can't remember any time where someone was put to sleep and the opposing fighter politely tucked them in for bed. Grasping at straws man.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean applegate
You guys really don't understand the difference between confidence and cockiness. Jones is confident. If you could do that, you'd be confident too. I appreciate the fact that he voices it instead of lying about it like "oh, I'm not sure if I'm good or not." He knows he's good.
Cocky would've told him "Keep striking with Machida. You're better than him." But he knew he was losing that game. Confidence told him he has different tools that he can better utilize to win. And he was right. He started using different tools and he won. He has the right to be confident.
Just sayin.
Jon Jones is the Michael Jackson of MMA, and for all the wrong reasons. His complaint that Rashad "ruined [his] special night twice now," and more recently his desire to show his family "some sort of magical vacation" lead me to believe that he is a pedophile. Plus, he's pretty into Jesus, and that just makes his latent pedophilia all the more disgusting.
Lmaoooooooooooo
Well we all know Chael is more awesome than Jones, try bringing something new to the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by The kza
Definitely more of a reflection on Greg Jackson than on Jones.
Jones has respect for Machida, how could he not? He probably just got caught up in the winning moment and it slipped his mind that the "proper" thing to do is to check on Machida to make sure he's alright. He heard Jackson remind him, and he did his thing. I mean can you even imagine how much shit would be running through your head in the few minutes after knocking out a legend to defend your UFC title?!
As far as Jackson is concerned, I don't think that coaching Jones to go check on Machida was inappropriate at all. Jackson seems to run pretty much all facets of Jones' career and public relations is definitely part of that. He probably shouldn't have yelled the "win some fans" part, especially with so many microphones surrounding him, but you have to remember, we only heard one small sentence from Jackson, and we have no idea what the context of "win some fans" really was. Maybe he meant it as a joke and realized immediately how insincere it sounded but couldn't take it back? Maybe "win some fans" in itself is an inside joke in the Jackson camp? Maybe Jones has been working particularly hard on his image lately and his PR agent is particularly cold-hearted and Jackson was mocking him/her? Maybe Jackson and Jones are both greedy heartless pricks who only care about money and could care less about the true well-being of Machida? The point is you can't judge a man based on one sentence like that, and you certainly can't judge the man who it was said to just because he listened.
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong. Jon Jones is alright in my book. For now. :-)
I found a Sherdog thread! :)
HOLY SHIT! Someone with a realistic perspective on the situation of beingQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt "Gumby" Glach
in front of millions of people while they judge your every move. Nice work Gumby.
Everyone else just stick to the nice friendly mats that you always stick to,
and assume everyone should act like you think they should.