Hhhhmmmmmmmm very interesting to say the least http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_gz...eature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01bY66rklwU&feature=g-all-a&list=PLC981243E6BFB7DE3&context=G2735738FAAAAAAA ACAA
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Hhhhmmmmmmmm very interesting to say the least http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_gz...eature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01bY66rklwU&feature=g-all-a&list=PLC981243E6BFB7DE3&context=G2735738FAAAAAAA ACAA
Heavy shit man! Theres too much video evidence to deny theres something out there
Yeah but the problem is that a bunch of those videos are fake and it's not helping those genuine witnesses/videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Herrera
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theres so much evidence both modern & anchient, a consistent record that spans the ages as far back that you can go, & that white sands video of that ufo breaking apart is amazing. & it's annoying when main stream scientists dismiss the subject without doing any research, because if you look at all the evidence the only logical conclution is that it's legit. especially when astronauts like gordon cooper & edgar mitchell say ufo's have been encountered on every space flight
How do we know that those aren't produced by our own military?
While I do think that a large amount of sightings are actually military craft, I also think there are a significant number of craft that aren't explained and are generally unknown in origin, the US military claimed to have stopped looking into the UFO issue decades ago, yet still, when a major sighting takes place, they investigate it on an unofficial level. Why do this if they know its their craft?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlemange August K.
I'm going to have to disagree with this. The scientific method requires that extraordinary claims provide extraordinary evidence. I find the prospect that we are being visited by alien life as intriguing as anybody, but once you filter out the hoaxes, military aircraft, satellites, natural phenomenon, the international space station, camera artifacts, and unreliable eye-witness accounts, you are at best left with some unexplained blurry photos and videos of bright lights. There is nothing that approaches hard scientific evidence. That is not to say that you can rule out alien contact, but this evidence is not enough for mainstream science.
I watched every episode of Ancient Aliens, despite the fact that after season 1 they had to reach well into the realm of ridiculousness for new material. And again, when you filter out all of the wild speculation you are left with some really old structures with undetermined building methods.
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Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
And, that UFO breaking apart in the video could totally be an experimental military aircraft. What kind of advanced civilization that has mastered intergalactic travel would split space-time to come to Earth and then dump his craft into the dirt.
Besides, it's probably a hoax. It looks like someone shot a clay pigeon in night vision.
theres nothing wrong with being sceptical but sceptics are often reaching for rediculas explanation's that's not a clay pigeon, anchient, civilisation's give us both the hardware of there petrogyphs & hiroglyphs, as well as the software of there oral history were they clearly tell us they got there knowledge from star brothers and sisters, and the same story is told from every anchient culture . the indians called them star brothers and sisters & the egyptians called them guardians of the sky. not to mention the clear evidence of machine tooling in the anchient world , & the helicopters, submarines & ufo's on hiroglyphs at the egyptian temple of dondera, & no one is more credible than astronauts like cooper & mitchell considering all the physical and mental tests they have to pass before there allowed into the space program. yea there are some cooks, but when astronauts , military generals, heads of nuclear installations , pilots civil & military, as well as police officers all come forward, that overrides the cooks. just watch the disclosure prodject. & as far as military vehicles we've been back engineering crashed ufo's since the 40's , just because there advanced doesn't mean there perfect & can't crash or be shot down, hell even ronald regan saw a ufo and gave multiple speaches to the UN about ufo's, talk bout credibility, i don't why this subject is so difficult for people to wrap there minds aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom Van
and to adress the rediculas clay pigeon theory, when you shoot clay pigeons they break apart in mid flight, not after they hit the ground, that object hit the ground regained flight hit the ground again & broke apart, clay pigeons can't do that, it's so laughable when sceptics try explain away all thease events with theories that have more holes than swiss cheese. mainstream science is becoming more & more cult & religious like, while sudo scientists are the one's doing real research based off logic & with a open mind. as a result the ufo field of research grows stronger & stronger, ego makes it difficult for mainstream scientists to admit they don't know all the answers, & sudo scientists just keep there minds open and ask more questions
Ya i have to agree with that... BUT there is credible mililtary personal that have seen things even they can't explainQuote:
Originally Posted by John Alighieri
LOL, alright it wasn't a clay pigeon. Someone bounced a frisbee off of the ground and then blasted it with a 12 gauge.
You still do not have any evidence of alien contact. Tool marks at ancient building sites are evidence of ancient tools, not aliens. Tales of star people is not scientific fact. It's called mythology. Why do a lot of people have stories about people coming from the stars? Maybe they did not have television and sat under the stars every night pondering their existence. Drawings of helicopters? I'm sorry, did the aliens fly here in 20th century human aircraft, or was it flying saucers?
I don't know, it sounds like "rediculas" "sudo" science to me. Whatever that is...
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Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
There are soooooooo many credible witnesses including military officials who are trained observers who have claim to have seen UFOs. Like at an American military base in the UK where 80 officers testified seeing an unidentified flying object, and 3 of them walked up to it, touched it and took notes. The British Ministry of Defense ignored them. That's just one case, there are thousands like that.
Yeah, I get that. I've watched "I Know What I Saw", and some other UFO docs. That's still not scientific evidence of alien contact. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. That could have been an experimental military craft. The British government could have dosed those people up with LSD in some top secret experiment. Who knows? A bunch of people saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear, but that didn't actually happen.
For the record, I believe that the current body of scientific knowledge points to the fact that there should be alien life in the universe, and probably lots of it, somewhere. I just don't think we can say for sure that it has been here, yet.
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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
LSD, lol at a nuclear armed base, like i said sceptics are often reaching for lame explanation's instead of just admitting they don't know, thats just egoQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom Van
exactly who's more credible than, astronauts, military officers, police officers, military & civilian pilots, pilots with combat experience who's lives depended on them being able to identify what was in the sky with them. including my neighbor who was a recconosence pilot in viet nam, & he took pictures of 2 ufo's radioed what happened to his commander & soon as he landed his CO was at the runway & confiscated his film. he also told me Navy & Airforce pilots in those days got a briefing on ufo protocol & were told not to shoot at or chase them unless ordered tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
Dude, I did admit that I don't know. I said "Who knows?" You quoted me. Remember? That's exactly what I am saying: I don't know. No one knows. That's why "mainstream scientists" are not convinced.
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Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
Science changes almost daily with knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Van
lol. This is such a great topic.
you cant change someones opinion or belief if they already have all the answers they need to hear or see. No sense getting worked up over it :)
If you think about it, all UFO sightings are real. By definition; it's an UNIDENTIED flying object (UFO). Most of those sightings have yet to be identified and they are flying. Anyone want to argue that? lol
in the Disclosure Project, a military officer said the military catalogued 57 different species visiting this planet. some that look just like us up to some that you wouldn't even recognize as a life form