Learned a valuable lesson about leglocks from Snowman Jeff Monson

I met "The Snowman" Jeff Monson at ADCC 2005 in Long Beach, California
which he won. He was cool. Took my picture with him which he later signed I also saw him win Best of the West in person on another occasion.
Then sometime later I took a seminar with him that UFC ref Herb Dean setup.
He taught us a lot plus of course the Monson choke from the north south position
that he got in a UFC fight.

But since I teach leglocks and am really into leglocks it was what he said
about leglocks that got my attention the most. Snowman said that he had tapped
out 100's of times to leglocks. Now here's a guy who has won ADCC more than once or has done well there all the times he been there, won Best of the West and many other grappling competitions and he's telling us he has tapped 100's of times to leglocks. He said it's all about tapping out and then not getting tapped out cause you've had guys try leglocks on you a lot.

By the way, Monson got the nick name "Snowman" in Brazil. The Brazilians
gave him that name cause he's so big and white. He told that story too.

I've always been a Monson fan cuz of his grappling

Leg locks are far and away the highest finish in adcc for the last two tournaments.

Could you reword that for me? I'm not sure I'm getting the lesson.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

Could you reword that for me? I'm not sure I'm getting the lesson.

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I think he meant high level guys including Monson are tapping to leg locks so you should incorporate them in your game more if you haven't already :)

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

Could you reword that for me? I'm not sure I'm getting the lesson.

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lol. you're in Rochester, you don't need to learn this lesson

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Originally Posted by Anthony Herrera

I think he meant high level guys including Monson are tapping to leg locks so you should incorporate them in your game more if you haven't already :)

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Ok, that's what I figured. It was this part that I wasn't sure about "He said it's all about tapping out and then not getting tapped out cause you've had guys try leglocks on you a lot." I wasn't sure what he meant by that. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Shawn Arnold

lol. you're in Rochester, you don't need to learn this lesson

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Hahah. True.

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Originally Posted by Anthony Herrera

I think he meant high level guys including Monson are tapping to leg locks so you should incorporate them in your game more if you haven't already :)

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Exactly Anthony. If Monson who is such a high level grappler tapped out 100's times to leglocks and admits it then why should it bother us to be tapping out to leg locks in practice. Getting better at grappling is just as much about tapping out and going again as it is about tapping people out. To some people every night is ADCC. We need to just train and drill and tap out when we need to. Leave your ego at the door. Sooner or later you'll have to tap out less often.

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Jeff "The Snowman" Monson teaches his deadly North and south ...
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Originally Posted by 10th Planet Riverside, Ca

Exactly Anthony. If Monson who is such a high level grappler tapped out 100's times to leglocks and admits it then why should it bother us to be tapping out to leg locks in practice. Getting better at grappling is just as much about tapping out and going again as it is about tapping people out. To some people every night is ADCC. We need to just train and drill and tap out when we need to. Leave your ego at the door. Sooner or later you'll have to tap out less often.

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The official GAMMA LABS/Jeff "The Snowman" Muson Highlight ...
GAMMA LABS is proud to sponsor Jeff "The Snowman" Monson at "Strikeforce: Dallas" on June 18th 2011! Munson (42-11) comes in having won eight-fights in a ...
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Jeff "The Snowman" Monson teaches his deadly North and south ...
Jeff " The Snowman" Monson Teaches his deadly north and South Choke. Watches as he covers great details in the position. Right from www.teampopovitchlive ...
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I couldn't agree more, if you're not tappin you're not learnin.

Leg locks are dirty, cheap submissions...

While i agree with the lesson, I think there's also merit to knowing your own personal thresh hold for particular submissions. tapping is one part of that learning process but working through them is also another. As you get more familiar with the sensation and mechanics of different submissions at some point you wanna try to find defenses or common weak points in attempts that are performed improperly. This will allow you to determine when you've been secured in the proper manner or where there's holes to wiggle out of. It also kinda familiarizes yourself with the limitations you have on certain types of submissions. I personally get a bit frustrated with guys who tap so quickly. While i respect that not everyone has the same aspirations in training, there are guys who almost instantly tap when a submission attempt is made. No one gains an honest experience that way either, so it's really about trust and comfort. there are some guys who you know are gonna go for the glory and some guys who you also know have a sense of control about them. Something that I tend to be aware of while on the mat.