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Ok so I pretty much figure that in order to learn more you have to become an instructor at some point. I just have a problem I don't like people or every been a people person. I have a strong desire to instruct sometimes but I just can't get past the part of W/e it is that's holding me back. Any advice on how to pass the point of shyness of instructing a class?
I used to hate people also and was very shy but I said fuck it, if they wanna learn 10th planet Ill teach em. Teaching the 10th planet system to people made into a completely different person. I got a group of guys I teach and they keep bringing new guys so I learn their name do my best to remember and work on from there. Just gotta remember if your 10th planet your family. Thats the way I over came it. You wanna learn the system that makes you family to me.
This. I am also a hater of people Sir. However, I can easily teach because my guys are like minded individuals. We all share a common need to learn new ways of choking others. As for teaching adults, you'll find 3 types of students. Those who learn by reading and studying tech., those who must feel it applied, and those that must do the tech through endless reps. There are others but that's a long story. Teaching kids is a different world and takes years of training lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trez Reyna
Start 1 on 1 till you build your confidence and develop your own style. Think of the qualities you look for in an instructor them build then in you. Its a process. But at some point you have to hold your breath and jump.
I hate people too... Gym ppls are good though
i could be wrong but i would guess you guys dont really hate all people... just stupid people. (:
Tez makes a great point. I thought that I hated people because I was horrible around them. Then I got good at interacting with them and now I enjoy people.
Just dive in, and just like you're jiujitsu you'll get better at it with repetition.
having a group of like minded people help alot and i don't like a lot of people but i found that if its something i'm passionate about i can talk about it or teach it to any open minded person
Its very difficult to become a good teacher or coach if you dislike people. A good coach genuinely cares for the development and well being of his or her students, and the people in the community. I treat all of my students as if I were their brother and sister. If you have a general distaste for people, I suggest looking into a different field. I truly believe in the maxim of Judo and as it applies to everything. "Maximum Efficiency, Minimum Effort and Mutual Welfare. To be a contributing member of society you have care about society and it's progress.
"I just hate stupid people" is a cop out. Stupid people are just people who haven't been properly educated , as a teacher it’s our job to give to those people, and educate them. If you did your job as a teacher, those "stupid" people will pay it forward and educate others as well.
Jiu Jitsu doesn't lie, if your not a genuine person that has a interst in helping people it will shine through, your mask of false sincerity will be exposed, be true to yourself and others at all times.
Teaching can often be a struggle and challenge for the best of em...
Looks like your biggest challenge is social anxiety...but like everyone said, reps and having passion about what your teaching will allow you to eventually overcome that one.
To me, the real challenge is teaching the "stupid" people. Zog is right, if your good it can be done...but good god I struggle at this the most. Stupid people are usually not "stupid" they are just ignorant. And ignorant people with their EGOs out of check are probably one of the biggest challenges teachers face.
.....and the one of the biggest rewards when you succeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Durham
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Thanks. I have seem a few people that stay away from jj and rely on their athleticism of wrestling and am ignorant to jj. I guess I just have to jump. I'm confident in what I have to teach. Just shy on the processes of putting it all together.
no such thing as a bad student only a bad teacher
Its a life long endevor, not something you can just do. Its takes hard work like everything else. Study, reps, execution, review, change, rinse and repeat. Its not just regurgitating techniques you learned from someone else, you need to study kinesiology, human physiology, sport phychology and coaching. I've put more into developing into a coach than anything else I've ever done. Training for high level competitions was easy compared to being a coach, all I had to worry about was what I had to do to win. I now have to do that for everyone that walks in my door or has me at their school. Its not about teaching them your game, its about teaching them a game that will work for them. Very few of my students move and roll like me, a good coach will guide a student on their own journey, not one that tells them how they will move and react.
I think its important to mention the importance of having a clear grasp on what you are teaching. You have to know the ins and outs of what you are teaching. Example: Can I do a heel hook? Yes. Am i qualified to teach a heel hook? No. It's because I lack the level of skill required to pass the intricate details of the hook onto another person. It's really important to focus on knowing your own game and own technique really well before you can dream of passing it on. IMO there are only a few things worse than bad teaching/teaching out of your ass.
Make them WANT to learn....by wuppin that ass.
I have a sincere love for education and educational theory and coach hit this right on. Far too often, we view teaching as a natural byproduct of being good at something. Being really good at something is not the same as being really good at helping other people learn how to be good at it too. Teaching is its own discipline with its own techniques, methods, research, and theoretical underpinnings. Developing a curriculum with specific intent takes a lot of time, effort, and thought. The craft of teaching isn't about the subject matter, its about the subjects. You have to not only understand your discipline, but you have to understand how people learn and how they apply what they've learned in practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
I've always coached and paid attention to developing and improving my friend's games. It's half selfish for me to be honest. For me to be the best I can be, my training partners have to be as good as possible. And when we go out and rep at tournies or fights, its my team thats on display so I want to have the best product possible. Its a sense of personal pride that all of us are strong grapplers, or becoming so.
But none of that compares to when a lil' Tom Petty lookin hippie^^ and a badass 17year old rack gold every time they enter. Plus the way it positively enriches their lives. People are good man. Help them and help yourself in turn.
Great posts in this thread.
Not sure if I'm nitpicking, but from my experience (I did substitute teaching for a bit), there IS such a thing as a bad student. It's a student who absolutely refuses to learn no matter how many times you try to reach them. But I suppose in the context of martial arts, that person wouldn't exactly be considered a student, would they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlemange August K.
Great post. I appreciate those little details that help guys like me. From the fat whip when I didn't have enough core strenth to do a proper whip up, to that foot on the hip to get the extra distance to be able to play rubber guard. You're a great coach. I know one day I'll be able to bring home a gold for the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
I posted a drunk post on this a while back. I'm what I jokingly call a youtube blackbelt. LOL. I've watched hours of youtube vids on techniques. I THOUGHT I knew what I was doing...until I started learning from Coach Herzog. That's because I know in theory how to do certain things...but Coach know in practice and with a record of great results how to do things RIGHT. Good post Cody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman
I have nothing to add to this. Just quoting for truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Hyatt
it takes real caring and dedication to be a teacher. teaching isnt just about what subject they are learning from you. its about enriching peoples lives. its about giving them something that they can carry with them throughout the rest of their lives, and possibly pass on to someone else. not just in jiu jitsu, but in life.
gotta give a shout out to brandon Mc for that one. definitely one of the most important lessons ive ever learned from anyone.
best answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Philips
Please help yourself and the BJJ community by not teaching if you don’t love it. Thank you.
P.S. Please re-read everything that Zog said on this post, the man knows something about coaching.
This was a great post Herzog. I couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
I think a good entry point for the original poster is to just start helping classmates with techniques. It really helps you break down a move. Once you show them a move, work with them until they can do it properly. Troubleshooting bad technique can highlight aspects of a move that you may have been doing without even realizing it. The rewards on this level are three fold - you get extra reps on a technique, you learn more yourself, and you gain the respect and appreciation of a classmate. Plus, you'll feel good when they tell you that the guillotine you showed them has been working. Once you've run through your bread and butter moves, start asking classmates if they can help you figure out a new move - it's the same process.
I don't know how it works at other schools since I started jiu-jitsu at Tenth Planet (Feb. 15 will be by seven year anniversary!) but my classmates began helping me with extra instruction on day one. The guys who helped me the most in the beginning, aside from Eddie, are all black belts now. I think that says something.
My two cents, and it's probably regurgitating what you all said already:
I don't think you hate people, just the interaction and having show tech to them over and over again(when they don't get it right).
Good teachers are patient, even to the most ignorant person. New techniques are difficult to understand sometimes, so it takes special attention from the teacher.
A good rule of thumb when I teach people something. Expect they know nothing about the technique, and even imagine yourself in the student's shoes. Would you rather have a teacher say, "just do this and this and rep ten times. What do you mean you don't uderstand?".
No, you want to give detailed instructions down to the mindset of the guy your going against... Give limb placement explanation. Why do x, then y. Be bulletproof with your technique and smile when you see people get it right. If they aren't getting the tech right, it could be time to change up your explanation. Remember, everyone learns differently, so as a teacher you have to understand each person's qualities and adapt to them.
Spend more time with James at Elite Fight Systems to learn the ropes. You can always come up here with them on Saturdays to get a feel for how it goes down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Morency
Well put. I hope when im out in LA next month i get to run into you at vista or riverside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick Rick
It'll be awesome Josh. Had a couple good rolls with Oca at HQ over the last two weeks. It'll be good to catch up with all Chicago folk soon. Still bummed I didn't make it through when I was there for the convention last June. Thts the nature of the job tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Passini